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Atlas are launching their brand new resin - Vulcan!
A resin aimed at providing an affordable quality resin for fine detail, ideally suited toward painters and model makers.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlas3dss/vulcan-1


Sold in bags at 1.5KG its a darker resin that comes with not just resin, but also models. Or rather STLs. The campaign has several tiers that unlock coins which you can then redeem for models (either individual or sets). Some are models from existing designers such as Mini Monster Mayhem, Lord of the Print, Aphyrion and others. There are even several whole sets (comparable to a month of patreon models) from several of the designers.


So not only do you get some very cool models, but also a new high quality resin. In the KS its $52 for 1.5KG of resin as an addon and $56 for the cheapest backer tier which includes 1 coin (redemption for a model) and the first model set




Backer Tiers



Deluxe Model set

UPDATES!

More coins have been unlocked, more core model STLs unlocked; painting competition with free busts! More models! Lots of stuff happening!

Also check update 8 out with another freebie
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlas3dss/vulcan-1/posts/3234510


There's also a video by Uncle Jessy, which even has a bit of preview on their next resin, Hercules

So I've heard a lot about this and decided to finally check it out since it got posted here. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. It's about the same price as the Aqua colored resins (more once you add in shipping) from Phrozen (which is what I use as I have a Phrozen) with a 75% longer cure time per layer. The lifting speed can be a lot faster with this (almost double) but I don't think that would offset the increased cure time.

I guess because it's ABS like that's the big deal but I've never really noticed any real difference in ABS like resins and others once things are painted (ABS does look better unpainted however).

The faster lift speeds you can do with any resin pretty much. Basically when it comes to the FEP its like a plaster, you either peel it off slowly or you peel it off really really fast. The danger zone is the points in between. So something like 50 at the lower end and 180-240 at the upper (varies and some printers need g-code mods to unlock faster speeds even if they accept it in the slice, it won't be enabled in the printer itself).

From what I can gather the strain is more on the components - eg build plate and Z axis, with going fast than it is on the resin itself. It's why people like pairing the faster lift speeds with nFEPs and such




As for Vulcan from what I gather it should hold generally greater fine details and if perhaps not beating some other resins, at the very least giving equal weight performance. The 1.5KG bags do seem to be better value compared to some other resins (based on the rough preorder prices its likely to be a bit cheaper than, say, Aqua 4K resin).

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As for Vulcan from what I gather it should hold generally greater fine details and if perhaps not beating some other resins, at the very least giving equal weight performance. The 1.5KG bags do seem to be better value compared to some other resins (based on the rough preorder prices its likely to be a bit cheaper than, say, Aqua 4K resin).

Not if you order it off of amazon where the Aqua 4k is about the same price (with shipping included) at $60 for 1.5 KG vs $56 without shipping. Also Vulcan isn't advertising itself as a 4k or 8k resin so I had to compare it to standard resins.

Now it is cheaper by about $10 over Phrozen's ABS grey resin so that, again, could be where people are seeing value as I don't think I care enough about things for the small extra amount of detail you're supposed to be able to get from ABS stuff as, again, I've never really noticed much of a difference. But then again I'm the guy who doesn't mind PVC minis either as unless you're doing display/competition peices you're always looking at the models from several feet away and quality doesn't matter as much in that case.

Fine detail is certainly something they've pushed with a lot of their general marketing and such for it. Whilst at the same time being fairly robust. That said their next resin (not part of this campaign) Hercules might be more your think, its being shown as a tougher and more flexible resin whilst still being good for models.

More updates - several new models unlocked for the core model set, more youtube videos showing off the resin AND a new goal that if they hit $100K (in about $4 from now) they'll dedicated a $10K amount to development of a new 3D printing control board

This is in reaction to recent changes where Chitu (who make most of the boards a lot of the printers we use at home) is now making new boards that are locking them to Chitu Pro slicing software only. The new 8K Phrozen and the Mars 3 4K printers and some new Elegoo are all using this new board. Which means you can't use Lychee, UVtools or anything else to slice prints for the printer. You can only use Chitu - of course you could support, save as stl and then use Chitu Pro; but then you've got to do another setp; still got to use Chitu Pro and pay for Chitu Pro at $170 or thereabouts per year.


So whilst its not the core product of the resin its a very big potential game changer if Chitu is going to stay strong to this direction and if Lychee and other slicing software designers can't crack the code lock on the boards


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlas3dss/vulcan-1/posts/3237290

Ya, the Chitu pro stuff is totally BS. I expect lawsuite over that from consumers.

For those that don't know the company that makes Chitu also manufactures the internals that every cheap SLA printers use and they're bascially required signed packages for printing to make sure people stop getting by with free slicing software.

The even funnier thing is Chitu Pro is hot garbage. It doesn't even work for most people and hasn't for a long time.

I'm not sure if you can sue over that, but in the end its not a good thing for the market in the least; though the upshot is its going to give any competition a big leg up with Chitu pulling a stunt like that.


And yeah I can't even use Chitu because their thumbnail preview feature causes my windows explorer to crash constantly when viewing files in folders. That's crashing when I'm not even running Chitu.




Also interestingly Lychee (the other big slicing software around) are looking at doing 3mf support. Which is basically a better format for saving digital models in than STL. As I recall not only is it more modern, but it also has better ways of saving the data, things like curves are better represented within it than in STL.
Heck Windows 3D builder complains at me when I save as STL instead of other formats when I have to open STLs in it to fix holes and such.

I'm almost certain the largest manufacturer of circuit boards for SLA printers adding encryption to lock out competition is something the competition could sue over. Chitu, however, is trying to walk back some of what they were planning on Facebook today (releasing an SDK that will allow 3rd parties to develop for those encrypted boards) but people are still upset as it seams there's no real reason to require encryption of sliced files is to sell the SDK access. We'll see what happens.

To tie this to the topic of this thread it's good to see Vulcan willing to develop an open source board. I'm surprised, to be honest, to see that there's not really any competition here.

FDM slicers have 3mf support for years as it is superior in every way but file size. It's bigger as it stores more data. It's one of the reasons I do all my SLA stuff in prusa and only slice in Chitu. I use builder for kit bashing and 3mf is a better archive file type for people creating models.

I don't know if the hobby will switch from SLA as the average person don't need to buy a m3f as there's a lot of data in there that's not needed if all you're going to do is print and the increased file size is something I'm sure MMF and other repository sites don't want to pay for to store and in bandwidth.

At the same time I think Atlas (the ones behind Vulcan) are going to push the change to 3mf. Since they do so many supports now for so many patreons and such. I think all its really waiting on is for Lychee to gain 3mf compatibility.

The bigger file size is a concern ,but at the same time with the market getting bigger its going to happen anyway.

Maybe they can convince some of the creators to actually, you know, decemate some of their offerings and reduce to overall poly count. I've downloaded a lot that don't need to be anywhere near the size they are (like 300meg for one human sized sculpt). Reducing the worst offenders overall vertices count by even 10%-15% would more then offset the increased size of 3mf.

I think there's a push for that. I think the issue is that the nature of Patreon is that a good few designers for it work right up to the mark designing stuff so after its gone live for the month they've very little review time before they have to start next month's content.

Plus many are crossing over from video game and 3D design into modelling so they've a fair few things to learn (like how resin traps are are thing and you can't just have holes in your sculpt) alongside things like file optimising.


In the end its a really new market and I think there's a lot still to settle in. Eg designers learning that offering more models is good, but that its not healthy to work right up to the line each month as it leaves no room for review, repair and also to produce excess so they've spare models to take a holiday or deal with family or life issues that might suddenly occupy their time for a month or more.

$131K and rising so far and entering the last 37 hours of funding!!

They've unlocked a new model for the core pledge and revealed a few more unlocks to come - again these come with total bags of resin sold rather than purely monetary goals.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlas3dss/vulcan-1/posts/3239378

Unlocked



Next Goals




In addition there's yet more models being added for the coins to be spent on

None of the .stl files are really striking me as “must have” and that’s what’s stopping me from jumping in. Good luck, can’t wait to hear reviews of the resin from you all.

We'll hopefully hear some reviews early as merchants are getting samples much earlier (because they really do need to make sure it works for them before they order big amounts). So fingers crossed we'll get reviews and impressions long before the general consumers get a hold of the resin.