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Simple question, the Company Ancient banner ability allows it to make one attack with one of its melee weapons as if it were the Fight phase.

Does this mean if the unit has say, 4 attacks and a power-fist and a chainsword it can make 4 hit rolls, (i.e. 1 attack) but only with one weapon? Or is it 1 hit roll with 1 weapon?

TIA
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

Company Ancient Dataslate, Astartes Banner (Aura) rule wrote:...it can... make one attack with one of its melee weapons.

That seems pretty clear to me.

You make 1 attack, with a melee weapon.

4 hit rolls would be 4 attacks.

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Thanks, this is what I thought I just wanted to be sure

 DeathReaper wrote:
Company Ancient Dataslate, Astartes Banner (Aura) rule wrote:...it can... make one attack with one of its melee weapons.

That seems pretty clear to me.

You make 1 attack, with a melee weapon.

4 hit rolls would be 4 attacks.

   
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Tacoma, WA, USA

 DeathReaper wrote:
Company Ancient Dataslate, Astartes Banner (Aura) rule wrote:...it can... make one attack with one of its melee weapons.

That seems pretty clear to me.

You make 1 attack, with a melee weapon.

4 hit rolls would be 4 attacks.
One attack can have multiple hit rolls depending on the weapon, but the banner gives only one attack not the model's Attack characteristic.
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

 alextroy wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
Company Ancient Dataslate, Astartes Banner (Aura) rule wrote:...it can... make one attack with one of its melee weapons.

That seems pretty clear to me.

You make 1 attack, with a melee weapon.

4 hit rolls would be 4 attacks.
One attack can have multiple hit rolls depending on the weapon, but the banner gives only one attack not the model's Attack characteristic.
I believe it is in the rare rules section that equates hit rolls with attacks.

So a model with 1 for its attacks, that has a weapon with "multiple hit rolls" is still multiple attacks as you have to go through the attack sequence for every hit roll.

Therefore 4 hit rolls is 4 attacks.

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Tacoma, WA, USA

Not exactly. For your reference with emphasis added:
Attacks That Make Multiple Hit Rolls
Some rules, typically weapon abilities, tell you to roll more than one hit roll for each attack made , e.g. ‘each time an attack is made with this weapon, make 2 hit rolls instead of 1’. In these cases, each hit roll is treated as a separate attack that is made against the same target. As such, all normal rules that are triggered by attacks, or that apply to attacks (such as re-rolls or modifiers conferred by other rules) apply to each ‘hit roll’. Note that these additional attacks do not themselves result in more hit rolls being made.

Some rules can generate additional attacks during the attack sequence itself, e.g. ‘after resolving all this model’s attacks, it can make a number of additional attacks against that enemy unit equal to the number of attacks that did not reach the inflict damage step of the attack sequence during that fight.’ In these cases, these additional attacks can never benefit from rules that let you roll more than one hit roll for each attack being made – they can only ever generate one additional hit roll for each attack being made – but all other rules that are triggered by attacks, or that apply to attacks (such as re-rolls or modifiers conferred by other rules) apply to each additional hit roll. In addition, these additional attacks cannot themselves trigger any rules that would generate any further additional attacks.
   
 
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