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 Gallahad wrote:
New helmets are a definite downgrade. The rivets make it look too brutish compared to the rest of their armor.

I actually like the new head better. The closer the mask looks to a helmet, the better in my book. To each their own, of course.

But I have to wonder about what's wrong with the rivets? They're present on other parts of the armor as well. They're present on the very first Sigmarines. It's hardly a new or isolated element.

Personally I think it's a good element to have as well. As far as I'm concerned painting this style of armor (which you'll also find on Sororitas models that also have rivets) is more pleasing with little elements that stand out. Too clean and it just ends up looking and feeling dull.

I don't mind the rivets, despite them often being both impractical and implausible. Something has to break up the uniform amour plates a little, and most of the details that would do that on actual armour just don't work at this scale.

At the very least, rivets beat trims.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/04/whats-leaving-the-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-range/?utm_source=Social+Media&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=AoS&utm_content=Messaging

Wow, that is quite the range purge. And Beasts of Chaos are dead as an entire faction.

They really don't want you to be able to use an army in old world and age of sigmar damn. Such a dumb marketing move

That's really shockig


Skaven and Stormcast I expect will see many of the models simply replaced with new sculpts come the update this mid-year. Skaven its honestly expected to see some shakeup; more of a hsock for stormcast.


Beast of Chaos being totally removed is almost bonkers. I get that GW wants to draw a line between the two games but that one sounds daft.


Orks - yeah honestly I do get that split but still rough for ork players in AoS.



Slaves I REALLY hate seeing all those warbands going. they are so diverse and such great models. Balance wise I DO get it because they were all kind of tripping over each other in the same slot; but its a shame to see them removed form the game




Honestly BOC being removed sounds really bad as a move. The rest kind of makes sense on some fronts, but doing it all at once might get a LOT of backlash

Just last week I was contemplating doing an all-Sacrosanct army. Really glad I didn't pull the trigger on that.

Loads of stuff going off sale.

I’m hoping the Savage Orcs are off home to Old World.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/04/whats-leaving-the-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-range/

James12345 wrote:
They really don't want you to be able to use an army in old world and age of sigmar damn. Such a dumb marketing move

What I don't get is GW has the Dark Elf army sitting right there in cities of Sigmar doing NOTHING with them. The only thing they did was a token "build dark elf army expansion" once with the Daughters of Khaine. Otherwise that whole army has sat in utter limbo. Why take BoC out but leave the Dark Elf force in.

They actually killed Beastmen.

That's a really, REALLY gakky thing to do to people in the year of our Lord 2024.

gakky enough that I probably won't bother with Beastmen in TOW, despite having big plans for them.

 Overread wrote:

James12345 wrote:
They really don't want you to be able to use an army in old world and age of sigmar damn. Such a dumb marketing move

What I don't get is GW has the Dark Elf army sitting right there in cities of Sigmar doing NOTHING with them. The only thing they did was a token "build dark elf army expansion" once with the Daughters of Khaine. Otherwise that whole army has sat in utter limbo. Why take BoC out but leave the Dark Elf force in.

Because Dark Elves are a Legends army and Beastmen aren't.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
They actually killed Beastmen.

That's a really, REALLY gakky thing to do to people in the year of our Lord 2024.

Yeah I thought AoS was past its army killing phase

Also it just strikes me a LOT of those stormcast models aren't even that old! Some were even starter box models last edition. That's crazy - that's a 3 year lifespan!

nicer to see most of the sigmarines they pushed through the mortal realms series and earlier starter sets getting squatted

really leaves a feeling of "why bother?" to the idea of getting anything when its going to get wiped, likely to be replaced with something essentially the same but with a totally different name

Yeah, but you have to expect that DE will be removed from AOS and move back to TOW as soon as they release the second half of the COS range this edition. It's maybe just a year further away.

It's a huge shame to lose the Warcry models, some of them are very characterful for conversions etc.

Given they are probably not getting imminently replaced by Thunderstrike kits, I am surprised they are killing off the Sacrosanct too. No Primaris/Firstborn ongoing split here I guess.

Hopefully the Skaven kits all do get replaced for the sake of TOW players. Bonesplittaz are also presumably heading there even if it doesn't explicitly say so.

Stormcasts are likely to receive updated armour kits for most of the entries, so you'll likely be able to use your old models as substitutes. I assume the same is true for Skaven core troops and at least some of the characters.

Beasts and Orc players got their teeth kicked in.

If i had invested in Stormcast Eternals i would never buy anything from GW again after seeing this. That is a hell lot of models to just remove.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Stormcasts are likely to receive updated armour kits for most of the entries, so you'll likely be able to use your old models as substitutes. I assume the same is true for Skaven core troops and at least some of the characters.

Beasts and Orc players got their teeth kicked in.

and Orcs not for the first time either

I'm quite open to a new set or rules where I already have the models usually, though with GW there is now a near certainty they will try to invalidate existing models in some way leaving only more "casual" games possible

and for more casual games, to be honest earlier rules editions are just fine as well anyway.

the 10th 40k as a rule set works nicely, I dare say 4th AoS will be similar, I also suspect it will end up feeling so bland as to be not worth bothering with. no more continued adventures of... as they have all been put out to pasture

Stings. Especially bonensplitters. For added fun can't play all savage orc army in tow either.

Time to play 20-30 boarboy units? Only way to legally use all in tow.

Belthanos wrote:
Stings. Especially bonensplitters. For added fun can't play all savage orc army in tow either.

Time to play 20-30 boarboy units? Only way to legally use all in tow.

Maybe an Army of Renown will come out for them in a year or two when GW have got through the TOW release backlog and feel like re-releasing them.

I don't play Age of Sigmar but wow...

That is just absurd how much stuff they're discontinuing. Entire miniature ranges just suddenly gone, including miniatures that aren't even from that long ago. It comes across just so poorly and reminds me of what happened with going from WHFB to AoS all over again.

Hm, that's surprising. For the Stormcast i would have thought if anything it would have been the Vanguard chamber. But i suspect it will probably be as above and be another re-sculpt further down the line. Shame about Astreia though, she was a personal favourite. Although i assume the various hero's (Celestant, Castellant etc) will all just get the Thunderstrike treatment rather than just being gone, so it's not as big a cut as it looks.

Beasts is the bigger surprise. I always felt they had a bigger upturn in popularity in AoS than they ever did in fantasy. So i guess they're just getting punted over there to be ignored as well.

I'm not surprised by any of the metal skaven stuff (or the gakky rat ogres). But clanrats and stormvermin? While keeping the plague monks? Weird. I know the range is getting revamped, but the stormvermin are great models.


Beasts and savage orcs getting kicked isn't as shocking as it could be (especially savage orcs). The dark elves being left in limbo is actually more surprising.

GW having self-awareness about the size of the stormcast range is also a shock.

The warcry warbands getting flushed is probably healthy for cleanup, but they could have been made into a generic unit entry. I'm sure the old marauders will finally vanish as well.

Marauders will be overtaken by the Darkoath, that's pretty obvious.

Warcry and Underworlds removal seem logical as they never were meant for a big army game. What is not logical is that it is meant only for older ones.

Clan rats will likely play a big role in the new boxset

Interesting the Extremis and Vanguard Chambers survive

 GaroRobe wrote:
Clan rats will likely play a big role in the new boxset

Exactly - a good many of the skaven I'd expect to see new sculpts for or new ideas - eg the weapon teams might be reworked into something new (we've already seen that gun on a platform that might replace the gattling team)

Uuuuughhhh

So many are already “temporarily out of stock…”

Should have gotten iron golems years ago.

Same for me on the Unmade - but I'm not panic buying them. My Slaves army is a potential force years away building up (I've got Slaanesh, Ossiarchs and DoK before that)

Nothing says "The Old World you know and love is back" quite like Beastmen players getting absolutely rooted

Huh, i wonder if the Horns of Hashut are being pulled because they're being pushed over into Chaos Dwarves?