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Everything that's seen in the launch trailer so far are getting re-sculpts, that's a guarantee. Things like Celestant still have mounted alternatives, so that's a guarantee. And things like the Azyros, Veritant and Vexilor are core parts of the army. So they're not just disappearing without a replacement.

Two collections of mine being squatted is enough for one day, thanks. I am sincerely finally getting off of the GW hamster-wheel. It remains a company with so little regard for its fans that I just can't give them any more.

This is too wide a hobby with too many companies that better respect my patronage and time, to play any more half-baked GW.

I genuinely thought they were over weird moves like this.

Hopefully this hobby extinction level event for so many players will birth a new third party game like the initial death of WHFB galvanized the KOW 2nd edition. I know that kept people playing with their figs for years locally so much so that the store had to special order conversion bases for the units to keep up. Obviously the popularity didn't last forever but a few years is better no use after 2025.

Well the weird thing is, why even announce the removal of those stormcast and skaven models if they're just getting resculpted? They resculpted termagants and hormagaunts for tyranids with 10th edition, yet they didn't put out an article announcing that they were being retired or anything. They just announced the resculpts and moved on, same as what they've done for basically any other resculpt before now.

I can understand beastmen and bonesplitterz since they're actually being cut and relaunched into a different game (or at least beastmen are), but we're expecting a portion of those stormcast and skaven minis to be resculpts, so why even mention or include them at all? Just tell us the things actually being removed, everything else will presumably be available in 6 months time with new sculpts.

Yeah thats how I read it for Sacrosanct. Gone, removed not resculpted anytime soon. Chamber closed.

Well.

There goes my Stormcast to Primarchs conversion project.

(obviously with head and bitz swaps)

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Closer than my attempts to play GSC after 2nd edition 40k and the 3rd edition Citadel Journal list...

Yeah, you're probably right. Not like I gave a damn about WYSIWYG anyway.

chaos0xomega wrote:
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Rumor is that skaven are getting resculpted stormvermin and clanrats in AoS. The idea that they will be backportef into TOW seems to be supremely wishful thinking, especially given they just purged an entire faction from AoS to prevent crossover with TOW. The message on all this should be loud and clear that legacy factions will stay legacy.

Except vampires coming back to tow as rumour says doesn't support your theory.

Rumours don't support theories because they're rumours.

Mistweaver Saih is disappearing... Malerion incoming?

GW once again treating expensive models like assets in a video game you can just swap out...

And plenty of the bootlickers lap it up.

The release of Kragnos as the heavyweight of Destruction somewhat foreshadowed the doom of the BoC to me. He's essentially something you'd find in a BoC army but instead of Chaos he is Destruction.In AoS it seems the BoC would have been better slotted in Destruction, right out of Ghur. Not the best solution but maybe removing them allows newer versions to be something different.

So Sigmar lied about the lifespan of Stormcast.

Well played.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Mistweaver Saih is disappearing... Malerion incoming?

I legit didn't think that model was still available. What faction was it under on the webstore?


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 warboss wrote:
Hopefully this hobby extinction level event for so many players will birth a new third party game like the initial death of WHFB birthed KOW.

KOW came out about 5 years before WHFB died.

The way I read it is Vanguard eventually get the thunderstrike update and Sacrosant dont come back.

Its hard for me to mourn the Sacrosanct going away, but darn, thats a rough way to treat the players that focus on them.
Having introduced them in a starter box should mean there is lots of people having started out with them for their SC army.

 Fayric wrote:
The way I read it is Vanguard eventually get the thunderstrike update and Sacrosant dont come back.

Its hard for me to mourn the Sacrosanct going away, but darn, thats a rough way to treat the players that focus on them.
Having introduced them in a starter box should mean there is lots of people having started out with them for their SC army.

It’s that last bit.

Whilst there’s some “so what’s coming?” yet to be known? Ditching a range of models a healthy percentage of your current player base will have is really off. Really really off.

 nels1031 wrote:

KOW came out about 5 years before WHFB died.

Thanks. I'll correct that.

In my group we have 3 SCE players, 2 Skaven and 3 BOC players. As per today's discussion we're sticking with this edition and GW can stick 4th where the sun doesn't shine.
They pulled this nonsense when they killed off WHFB and now this. None of us will be investing in TOW or 4th. We enjoy this version and not buying into new nonsense will mean we continue to enjoy using our miniatures that have have cost a lot of £ and taken a lot of time to paint.
Also means we combined save a fortune by not buying new edition and battletomes. So thanks GW you've probably saved us a few thousand pounds combined.

 Kanluwen wrote:

And Liberators are Liberators too.

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:


No, all the first ed models there are getting resculpts and it's pretty guaranteed that every hero there is going to get a thundrestrike upgrade. I'd say less than half that what's actually pictured will be "gone" without a replacement.

Not all* Vanguard and Extremis go unchanged, as well as Celestant-Prime.

 CMLR wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

And Liberators are Liberators too.

Liberators are one of the units shown as getting axed in this announcement.

We also know they're getting a new sculpt.

Hence: "Liberators are Liberators too".

 warboss wrote:
Obviously the popularity didn't last forever but a few years is better no use after 2025.

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 Grimtuff wrote:
And plenty of the bootlickers lap it up.

I fail to see the plenty of bootlickers you mention.

Anyone looked at how hard this will hit the Hatchette Stormbringer subscriptions?

Quick glance seems the run is mostly the SkinnyCast and not the OldFats.

 TalonZahn wrote:
Anyone looked at how hard this will hit the Hatchette Stormbringer subscriptions?

Quick glance seems the run is mostly the SkinnyCast and not the OldFats.

This will hit AOS harder. I mean why would anyone at this point not learn from this?

 NAVARRO wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
Anyone looked at how hard this will hit the Hatchette Stormbringer subscriptions?

Quick glance seems the run is mostly the SkinnyCast and not the OldFats.

This will hit AOS harder. I mean why would anyone at this point not learn from this?

No hit at all.

As a Stormbringer subscriber, I don't see anything that's getting discontinued. Pic of contents (not including Premium Exclusives) :

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/25/build-your-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-collection-with-stormbringer-magazine-coming-soon-to-the-us/

 TalonZahn wrote:
Anyone looked at how hard this will hit the Hatchette Stormbringer subscriptions?

Quick glance seems the run is mostly the SkinnyCast and not the OldFats.

Stormbringer's made up of Dominion and 95% new kits. There's nothing that will affect it.

BoC leaving AoS (that rumour was real then), hopefully Savage orcs going to TOW (savage boarboys already sold out online, last chance to buy boys on foot, I can't afford atm), lots of Sigmarines due to reforging armour (which would be good if they didn't just say they're gone forever, in fact, we already saw a Nü-Prosecutor on the cinematic), Warcry and Underworlds culling for StD (now this hurts the most if they are not just removing the warscrolls and they are just deleting the models from their other games ranges), people calling orcs "orks", abuse on the misuse of apostrophes and not capitalizing the "O" in "TOW".

Today I just had my apointment with my psychologist and I wish all of this happened BEFORE I went, and GW just won't pay for it.

At least they are finally confirming what are they getting rid off from Skaven (in my honest Imho, Clanrats are still good looking, and I had fun with still current Stormvermins, I made a barbarian and a rogue one) so lets have some ̶n̶a̶ï̶v̶i̶t̶y̶ positivity still intact.

 CMLR wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

And Liberators are Liberators too.

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:


No, all the first ed models there are getting resculpts and it's pretty guaranteed that every hero there is going to get a thundrestrike upgrade. I'd say less than half that what's actually pictured will be "gone" without a replacement.

Not all* Vanguard and Extremis go unchanged, as well as Celestant-Prime.

I'm surprised about the Prime actually. He seems a prime candidate for a centrepiece redo.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Mistweaver Saih is disappearing... Malerion incoming?

I legit didn't think that model was still available. What faction was it under on the webstore?

None, it only shows up if you select order as a whole.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I'm surprised about the Prime actually. He seems a prime candidate for a centrepiece redo.

I'd rather see him get a rules glow-up; isn't he supposed to be the biggest, baddest Stormcast because he gets to run around with Ghal Maraz?

Savage orcs can be used orc models in WTOW if given the appropriate weapon/shield. I have a heap of savage orcs I bought second hand for AOS and got about 1/5 of the way through painting them and can now repaint those and rebase others to flesh out my orc component. For the first time in 30 years I will have some boar boyz.
Who knows, in the future there may be a tome for savage orcs and spider goblins...