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2021/07/25 10:14:05
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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I thought I'd start a thread to talk about the rumoured GK vs TS box.
Right now it looks like it will include the new Castellan Crowe and Infernal Master models, as well as a Dreadknight and a Tzaangor Shaman.
Details of the other units are less clear at the moment. I'm hoping for GK Terminators and Rubric Marines. It seems likely that we'll see more Tzaangors too given that there's going to be a Tzaangor Shaman.
Has anyone seen any further information or rumours?
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This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2021/07/26 12:43:09
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2021/07/25 10:32:45
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic
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Focused Fire Warrior
Les Etats Unis
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Let's just put it out there: If the GKs don't get Primaris upgrades in this box, I have no idea why Games Workshop is releasing it.
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Dudeface wrote: Eldarain wrote:Is there another game where players consistently blame each other for the failings of the creator?
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2021/07/25 10:34:10
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Flipsiders wrote:Let's just put it out there: If the GKs don't get Primaris upgrades in this box, I have no idea why Games Workshop is releasing it.
To sell a bunch of old models off the back of a couple of new characters, like all these 2 army boxes.
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2021/07/25 10:38:34
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic
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Terrifying Wraith
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ImAGeek wrote: Flipsiders wrote:Let's just put it out there: If the GKs don't get Primaris upgrades in this box, I have no idea why Games Workshop is releasing it.
To sell a bunch of old models off the back of a couple of new characters, like all these 2 army boxes.
dingdingding, correct answer. However, as someone who still mostly prefers the old marines to primaris, and likes the new Crowe model, I'm pretty into it
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2021/07/25 10:44:58
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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The new Castellan Crow model certainly looks bigger, but it's not Primaris...
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2021/07/25 10:58:42
Subject: Fire and Magic
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I think whatever they put in the box for k-sons, the players will already have plenty, because the range is so limited.
Exept for the new "another power armour wizard" covered in swirly gak.
Ofcourse, the infernal maste should be accompnied by actual daemons, but most likely we get more AoS beastmen. (and good riddance, most daemons are terrible units unless you play a friendly narrative game just for fun)
I guess its better than then putting Ahriman in the start collecting box though
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/07/25 11:02:30
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2021/07/25 11:00:35
Subject: Fire and Magic
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Dakka Veteran
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You may want to update topic title to something like "Fire and Magic - upcoming GK vs. TS boxed set discussion". I had to open the thread to know what this is about and I am sure I was not the only one.
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2021/07/25 11:05:02
Subject: Fire and Magic
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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jullevi wrote:You may want to update topic title to something like "Fire and Magic - upcoming GK vs. TS boxed set discussion". I had to open the thread to know what this is about and I am sure I was not the only one.
Done
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2021/07/25 11:38:35
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic - upcoming GK vs TS boxed set discussion
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Huge Bone Giant
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I may have have said it about that picture before in another thread, but I wouldn't feel happy using the new Crowe alongside the old Grey Knight models. I know it's far more likely this battle box is like most others and the only new models are the two characters, but if GW is determined to not give Grey Knights Primaris, they should still update the models to have better proportions like they did with Chaos Marines. Anything else is just sad. Plus Grey Knights infantry is made from only two boxes, so it's not even much of an investment compared to the model updates other armies got in the past two years.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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2021/07/25 12:20:00
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Flipsiders wrote:Let's just put it out there: If the GKs don't get Primaris upgrades in this box, I have no idea why Games Workshop is releasing it.
Maybe they will update GK models like Crowe's one? They do not need to be Primaris to look good. Just look at new CSM or Deathwatch.
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2021/07/25 12:24:55
Subject: Fire and Magic - upcoming GK vs TS boxed set discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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I like Crowe's new proportions. Apart from that, I like the old mini better.
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2021/07/25 13:04:42
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shadow Walker wrote: Flipsiders wrote:Let's just put it out there: If the GKs don't get Primaris upgrades in this box, I have no idea why Games Workshop is releasing it.
Maybe they will update GK models like Crowe's one? They do not need to be Primaris to look good. Just look at new CSM or Deathwatch.
With the 30k rescale on the horizon I imagine GW will be going a similar route with the GK at some point.
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2021/07/25 13:19:33
Subject: Fire and Magic - upcoming GK vs TS boxed set discussion
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Terrifying Wraith
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Careful, we'll end up with intercessors with an upgrade sprue a la death company. Shudder
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2021/07/26 12:09:05
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hexfire reveal
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/26/the-hexfire-battlebox-pits-grey-knights-might-against-thousand-sons-sorcery/
The Grey Knights, led by the head of the Purifier order, Castellan Crowe, contains two five-man squads of Grey Knights in power armour, plus a mighty Nemesis Dreadknight. The Grey Knights can be assembled as Purifiers, of course, or as a Strike Squad, Interceptor Squad, or heavy-weapon-toting Purgation Squad. Since there are two squads, you can even mix and match – it’s an incredibly versatile kit. Likewise, the Nemesis Dreadknight suit can also be worn by a Grand Master if you choose.
The other half of the box consists of the Infernal Master, along with five Scarab Occult Terminators, plus ten Tzaangors and a Tzaangor Shaman.
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2021/07/26 12:10:53
Subject: Re:Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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And the rumor of half new box, other half new character goes down!
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2021/07/26 12:25:45
Subject: Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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This is a really cool box set, and man that codex artwork is so nice. The 9th edition codex art is just a home run every time.
I think it's really cool there is crusade rules in the box, that's a nice touch when splitting the box with a buddy, play a little campaign with the dudes inside.
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2021/07/26 12:35:56
Subject: Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It'll be interesting to see if this is GK/TS Crusade specific content lifted from their codex, or just rehashed core Crusade rules meant to make the box a campaign in a bottle.
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2021/07/26 12:38:28
Subject: Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Sterling191 wrote:It'll be interesting to see if this is GK/ TS Crusade specific content lifted from their codex, or just rehashed core Crusade rules meant to make the box a campaign in a bottle.
Based off the Article.
You’ll find datasheets for all the models in the box, of course, but also Crusade rules including campaign-specific Battle Scars, Relics, and Battle Traits. These are a cool way to show the lasting effects of the battle for Hexenfast.
Specific stuff for the setting.
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Wolfspear's 2k
Harlequins 2k
Chaos Knights 2k
Spiderfangs 2k
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2021/07/26 12:38:36
Subject: Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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The new character models seem to be on 40mm bases, and even without the tactical rocks are really large; primaris sized. The old GK models will look super derpy next to them.
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2021/07/26 12:41:07
Subject: Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Those old models look really bad. Is this going to be a second Blood of the Phoenix?
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2021/07/26 12:53:09
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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It is kind of embarrassing for them to show these old models next to the new one.
I personally have a different reason to disliking it as well. I love Grey Knights as terminators, and putting their non terminator armor troops in there is disappointing for someone who wanted to start a grey knight army.
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2021/07/26 13:02:37
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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How about the price tag?
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2021/07/26 13:03:58
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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TheBestBucketHead wrote:It is kind of embarrassing for them to show these old models next to the new one.
I personally have a different reason to disliking it as well. I love Grey Knights as terminators, and putting their non terminator armor troops in there is disappointing for someone who wanted to start a grey knight army.
I feel the same way towards the tsons, they're known for their sorcerers and rubric marines, so the termies and bird boys seems out of place. Then again like grey knights they have so few kits and with the start collecting existing they'll want to avoid too many duplicates.
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2021/07/26 13:07:02
Subject: Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Kitane wrote:Those old models look really bad. Is this going to be a second Blood of the Phoenix?
Doubt it, Marines always sell well. Doesn't matter which kind. A few folks in my area already are talking about buying/splitting sets, something I never heard for Blood of the Phoenix (not many Aeldari players).
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Wolfspear's 2k
Harlequins 2k
Chaos Knights 2k
Spiderfangs 2k
Ossiarch Bonereapers 1k |
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2021/07/26 13:10:54
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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We won't know until the week it gets announced for preorder.
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2021/07/26 13:15:53
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am entirely dissapointed in this box set.
Apparently Tzaangors are a more iconic unit than Rubric marines? Seeing how they got featured in 2 of our box sets while rubrics only got 1?
50% of the Thousand sons side is just... not thousand sons.
Just roll us up in the mainline CSM dex again so we can get rid of Tzaangors please.
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You don't have to be happy when you lose, just don't make winning the condition of your happiness. |
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2021/07/26 13:23:32
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Bamberg / Erlangen
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Was really hoping for that rumour that GK get everything new in the box to be true.
I'll get Crowe and wait until the rest gets a rescaling.
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2021/07/26 13:23:51
Subject: Fire and Magic - rumoured GK vs TS box discussion
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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jaredb wrote:This is a really cool box set, and man that codex artwork is so nice. The 9th edition codex art is just a home run every time.
I think it's really cool there is crusade rules in the box, that's a nice touch when splitting the box with a buddy, play a little campaign with the dudes inside.
the covers of both codexes are awesome but the box art is pretty wonky imo...
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2021/07/26 14:03:38
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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DaPino wrote:I am entirely dissapointed in this box set.
Apparently Tzaangors are a more iconic unit than Rubric marines? Seeing how they got featured in 2 of our box sets while rubrics only got 1?
50% of the Thousand sons side is just... not thousand sons.
Just roll us up in the mainline CSM dex again so we can get rid of Tzaangors please.
Tzaangors are older than Rubrics. In Realm of Chaos - The Lost and the Damned they were described as a warrior cast on the Planet of the Sorcerors used as guards and fighters for the TS.
While I understand people who don't want to use them, they should be part of the army list.
The really weak part of the box are the GK in PA.
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2021/07/26 14:43:33
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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So runty GK are still there. Really GW, not even 1 box of them could be updated?
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