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2021/10/08 23:51:25
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Tallarook, Victoria, Australia
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Just wondering, will we see a repeat of printing in the USA
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2021/10/09 00:45:42
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Eh? What was printed in the US?
There was a brief run of UK printed books, but I haven't seen any printed in the States.
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2021/10/09 00:49:50
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Tallarook, Victoria, Australia
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Voss wrote:Eh? What was printed in the US?
There was a brief run of UK printed books, but I haven't seen any printed in the States.
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2021/10/09 01:45:03
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Fixture of Dakka
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So long as it comes out on time, does it really matter?
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2021/10/09 01:46:44
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Tallarook, Victoria, Australia
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ccs wrote:So long as it comes out on time, does it really matter?
It does when this happens
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/q1bto4/please_mr_workshop_my_codex_its_very_sick/
Automatically Appended Next Post: ccs wrote:So long as it comes out on time, does it really matter?
It does matter to some people, for reasons we are not allowed to discuss here.
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2021/10/09 06:10:04
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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The SM codex has been printed by Belmont Press in UK.
So what's the deal?
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2021/10/09 07:23:50
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Bamberg / Erlangen
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For those who want to know, OP is asking the country because there is the possibility that Chinese printer factories use forced labour.
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2021/10/09 10:10:35
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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It was an unsubstantiated libelous rumour posted in a locked thread. Considering the OPs history of posting this one should be locked before it gets out of hand.
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2021/10/09 11:46:56
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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a_typical_hero wrote:For those who want to know, OP is asking the country because there is the possibility that Chinese printer factories use forced labour.
I'm sure OP is just as much up in arms about the use of prison labor in the US, with it's 40c an hour payrates to inmates.
I'm sure this thread will be locked just as fast as the other one because it's obvious sith-stirring.
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2021/10/09 13:20:25
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, I'm sure none of you actually give a damn about the (possible/probable) forced labor in China.
I mean, if you DID? Then would you really continue to support GW - buying their stuff, playing thier games, and by default advertising them to other people?
Ha! Im sure you'll all just continue on as you are. Bitching about the next OP thing, worrying about the tourney win rates of forces, demanding more xeno support,, and complaing when product is late/sells out fast/is SM related.
Me? I care more that book x is being printed in MY country, helping MY people, than however it might have been produced elsewhere in the world.
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2021/10/09 13:59:47
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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ccs wrote:Yeah, I'm sure none of you actually give a damn about the (possible/probable) forced labor in China.
I mean, if you DID? Then would you really continue to support GW - buying their stuff, playing thier games, and by default advertising them to other people?
Ha! Im sure you'll all just continue on as you are. Bitching about the next OP thing, worrying about the tourney win rates of forces, demanding more xeno support,, and complaing when product is late/sells out fast/is SM related.
Me? I care more that book x is being printed in MY country, helping MY people, than however it might have been produced elsewhere in the world.
Wait. Your country as in the USA or as in the UK ? I'm lost.
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2021/10/09 14:14:24
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Tallarook, Victoria, Australia
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No political comments please. By order of the chairman. Follow the example of your great leader, GoldenHorde who is capable of avoiding political comments as per dakkadakka mandate.
All discussion to be strictly about the source of printing of the new book.
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2021/10/09 14:19:38
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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GoldenHorde wrote:Voss wrote:Eh? What was printed in the US?
There was a brief run of UK printed books, but I haven't seen any printed in the States.
Wait, but the Ork codex isn't more expensive for not being printed in China.
That's impossible! /s
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2021/10/09 14:21:27
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Tallarook, Victoria, Australia
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Lord Damocles wrote: GoldenHorde wrote:Voss wrote:Eh? What was printed in the US?
There was a brief run of UK printed books, but I haven't seen any printed in the States.
Wait, but the Ork codex isn't more expensive for not being printed in China.
That's impossible! /s
The glorious party members here ASSURED ME that if GW could not print in China, GW staff would be facing impending homelessness.
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2021/10/09 15:27:38
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lord Damocles wrote: GoldenHorde wrote:Voss wrote:Eh? What was printed in the US?
There was a brief run of UK printed books, but I haven't seen any printed in the States.
Wait, but the Ork codex isn't more expensive for not being printed in China.
That's impossible! /s
All savings from printing in China go directly to the shareholders. Silly thing, in capitalism the savings do not get passed on to the customer, the customer is a good little consumer and buys anyway.
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2021/10/09 23:50:14
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Making Stuff
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So... 'Avoid books printed in the US' would seem to be the takeaway here.
Although, really, printing errors happen regardless of where a book is printed.
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2021/10/10 07:45:57
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
Watch Fortress Excalibris
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My inner pedant insists on pointing out that's a binding error, not a printing error.
But, yeah, this is not unprecedented.
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2021/10/10 08:40:01
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Gert wrote:It was an unsubstantiated libelous rumour posted in a locked thread. Considering the OPs history of posting this one should be locked before it gets out of hand.
I agree between some of his posting history and his forum avatar he's clearly stirring up xenophobic crap.
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2021/10/10 09:06:47
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I've got a book for the Legend of the Five Rings RPG like that - when I saw it arrive at the LGS, I specifically asked the owner to put it to one side for me, as I thought it was cool
And Gert? That sort of comment is why people use the s-word about you - there was enough circumstantial evidence posted in that thread to support "possible", which I recall was how the scenario was described.
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2021/10/10 09:28:03
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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It was presented as fact by the poster, then the poster provided circumstantial hearsay evidence that didn't support their position. If it wasn't an anonymous post it could easily have been considered libelous.
You can keep calling me a shill but I for one like to see actual evidence of wrongdoing before I start lynching people.
But hey the specific point of that post was to highlight that GoldenHorde clearly has an inability to refrain from discussing their intense hatred of China despite the forum rules and Mods just kind of ignoring it.
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2021/10/10 10:28:03
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Battleship Captain
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BrianDavion wrote: Gert wrote:It was an unsubstantiated libelous rumour posted in a locked thread. Considering the OPs history of posting this one should be locked before it gets out of hand.
I agree between some of his posting history and his forum avatar he's clearly stirring up xenophobic crap.
GoldenHorde isn't being xenophobic because he's not having a go at Chinese people, he's having a go against China and the practices of it's government, which I'm sure we can all agree is not something that needs to be defended. Automatically Appended Next Post: Gert wrote:It was presented as fact by the poster, then the poster provided circumstantial hearsay evidence that didn't support their position. If it wasn't an anonymous post it could easily have been considered libelous.
You can keep calling me a shill but I for one like to see actual evidence of wrongdoing before I start lynching people.
But hey the specific point of that post was to highlight that GoldenHorde clearly has an inability to refrain from discussing their intense hatred of China despite the forum rules and Mods just kind of ignoring it.
What's it like living in a world where you can just assume a corporation engages in completely moral practices unless you have absolute proof otherwise? I'd like to be able to use my phone without worrying about where the lithium came from or was made by happy little elves who love their work, instead of feeling bad occasionally because they exploited children.
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2021/10/10 11:47:47
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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Sim-Life wrote:What's it like living in a world where you can just assume a corporation engages in completely moral practices unless you have absolute proof otherwise? I'd like to be able to use my phone without worrying about where the lithium came from or was made by happy little elves who love their work, instead of feeling bad occasionally because they exploited children.
I like to know facts before I start witchhunts and nobody has provided me with any.
But I guess wanting evidence of human rights violations makes me a shill right?
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2021/10/10 11:57:56
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Battleship Captain
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Gert wrote: Sim-Life wrote:What's it like living in a world where you can just assume a corporation engages in completely moral practices unless you have absolute proof otherwise? I'd like to be able to use my phone without worrying about where the lithium came from or was made by happy little elves who love their work, instead of feeling bad occasionally because they exploited children.
I like to know facts before I start witchhunts and nobody has provided me with any.
But I guess wanting evidence of human rights violations makes me a shill right?
No, it makes you naive.
Wanting facts for things like the crimes of an individual is fine. For corporations and international companies its better to just assume they're performing some kind of human rights abuse. Especially when both Bangladesh and China are involved in manufacturing.
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2021/10/10 12:06:48
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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Except GW doesn't manufacture in China, a partner does and nobody could provide me with evidence to support that claim, which again is libel. So as far as I and any other person without a hate vendetta for GW are concerned, GW doesn't use slave labour beyond normal capitalistic practices. I could go on but the forums don't allow for the discussion of the implementation of socialism.
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2021/10/10 12:58:39
Subject: Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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And options given aren't any better. China, us. It's choice between 2 devils. Neither is better than the other
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2021/10/10 13:03:59
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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GoldenHorde wrote:No political comments please. By order of the chairman. Follow the example of your great leader, GoldenHorde who is capable of avoiding political comments as per dakkadakka mandate.
All discussion to be strictly about the source of printing of the new book.
Pro tip: if you're going to take the classic "I'm just asking questions!" approach to stirring up xenophobia, it's marginally more convincing if you don't also make passive-aggressive comments about forum moderators previously removing your own xenophobia.
Everyone with two brain cells to run together will still see through it of course, but at least you'd have a thin veil of deniability.
Sim-Life wrote:
No, it makes you naive.
Wanting facts for things like the crimes of an individual is fine. For corporations and international companies its better to just assume they're performing some kind of human rights abuse. Especially when both Bangladesh and China are involved in manufacturing.
Following this line of thinking; since some private US companies use prison labour paid a slave wage then it's fine to assume that all US employers do the same until proven otherwise?
Judging an entire race based on the actions of some (including their government) is literally the definition of racism btw.
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2021/10/10 14:18:40
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Battleship Captain
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xttz wrote: GoldenHorde wrote:No political comments please. By order of the chairman. Follow the example of your great leader, GoldenHorde who is capable of avoiding political comments as per dakkadakka mandate.
All discussion to be strictly about the source of printing of the new book.
Pro tip: if you're going to take the classic "I'm just asking questions!" approach to stirring up xenophobia, it's marginally more convincing if you don't also make passive-aggressive comments about forum moderators previously removing your own xenophobia.
Everyone with two brain cells to run together will still see through it of course, but at least you'd have a thin veil of deniability.
Sim-Life wrote:
No, it makes you naive.
Wanting facts for things like the crimes of an individual is fine. For corporations and international companies its better to just assume they're performing some kind of human rights abuse. Especially when both Bangladesh and China are involved in manufacturing.
Following this line of thinking; since some private US companies use prison labour paid a slave wage then it's fine to assume that all US employers do the same until proven otherwise?
Judging an entire race based on the actions of some (including their government) is literally the definition of racism btw.
How did you get from anti-corporatism to racism?
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2021/10/10 16:41:52
Subject: Re:Will Codex black temptars be printed in USA or CHINA?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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And we're done here.
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