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2021/11/30 13:58:25
Subject: Close Combat centric army
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Hey guys!
So alot of my friends are quitting 40k in favour of other games due to "imbalance". I still have a couple of friends who play. His main army being eldar, I thought it'd be a fun theme to have an anti psyker army such as Templars or World Eaters. Custodes are just an army that intrigues me due to the low model count.
What do you guys think? Historically, which army do you think would be better to invest in? I feel as though world Eaters may be the better route due to the rumours of an individual codex being released for them. Which would then give me access to daemons, and also delve slightly into aos.
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2021/11/30 14:12:21
Subject: Close Combat centric army
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
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Black Templars. They're SM (so never really bad) and the shiny new SM. They're also pretty competitive at the moment and don't require many models nor to spam the very same few models, and also they have a very wide roster so unlike custodes you can expand them in any direction you want.
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2021/11/30 15:18:23
Subject: Close Combat centric army
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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custodes in the new codex will be getting sisters of silence so there will be a anti psycher element there too
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2021/11/30 15:39:01
Subject: Close Combat centric army
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Technically speaking, Custodes has a more CC bent given that their baseline units all have power weapons and their stat lines/weaponry are edged towards close combat. However, I feel that the versatility of the SM range alongside the BT's baseline chapter tactics and vows gives you a lot more options like Blackie said so you'll have more ways of playing around different CC lists (e.g. Black Crusader Tide, being Veteran focused, mechanized, etc.) whereas Custodes you're pretty much kinda forced into relying on Forgeworld to some extent when it comes to some of your heavy hitters like the dreadnoughts, or at least that's what I think since we don't know what their new codex looks like yet.
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2021/11/30 16:20:09
Subject: Close Combat centric army
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Given the context that a number of your friends have dropped 40k for balance reasons, I'd recommend avoiding an army that acts as a hard counter to what one of your last remaining opponents collect. You'll be playing each other often and it gets old real quick if you are always facing an army that doesn't let your own army do its thing. Most interesting match ups come from when both armies have good counterplay into one another.
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2021/11/30 16:26:36
Subject: Close Combat centric army
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Sobie wrote:Given the context that a number of your friends have dropped 40k for balance reasons, I'd recommend avoiding an army that acts as a hard counter to what one of your last remaining opponents collect. You'll be playing each other often and it gets old real quick if you are always facing an army that doesn't let your own army do its thing. Most interesting match ups come from when both armies have good counterplay into one another.
I see what you're saying, but it's not intentionally a "hard counter" it was more for theme than anything. I'd like to think I can just tone down whatever list I'm playing given time.
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2021/11/30 17:26:23
Subject: Close Combat centric army
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Andy140491 wrote:Hey guys!
So alot of my friends are quitting 40k in favour of other games due to "imbalance". I still have a couple of friends who play. His main army being eldar, I thought it'd be a fun theme to have an anti psyker army such as Templars or World Eaters. Custodes are just an army that intrigues me due to the low model count.
What do you guys think? Historically, which army do you think would be better to invest in? I feel as though world Eaters may be the better route due to the rumours of an individual codex being released for them. Which would then give me access to daemons, and also delve slightly into aos.
A few carefully worded thoughts.
1) Over the years, many friends of mine have left 40k, more than I care to remember. Sometimes it was permanent, more often temporary. Good time to reflect on why they are walking away, before starting a new army. You were friends for a reason and likely share some points of view. If the decision to leave is truly based on the state of the game, changing armies might leave you dissatisfied.
2) I voted World Eaters as the "best army to invest in." While it's nice to think they are going to get a new Codex, that's not necessarily going to happen. Even if it does, it's not necessarily going to be good. World Eaters are an army you can love with all your heart. Even when they do terrible on the table top, there are insane modelling options that are deeply satisfying. I have my 5th edition World Eaters army on a shelf, it hasn't seen use in years and would not trade it for any reason.
3) WRT Daemons, something to remember: Khorne is always better in the fluff than on the tabletop. If you really wanted to go straight cc - Slannesh is a very good option right now. I have played a couple games of 9th with Slannesh and was very impressed.
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2021/11/30 19:47:15
Subject: Re:Close Combat centric army
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Why not refer to the dozens of other "what army should I play" threads you've posted
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2021/11/30 19:57:59
Subject: Re:Close Combat centric army
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Marshal Loss wrote:Why not refer to the dozens of other "what army should I play" threads you've posted
Thanks for your valuable input. Have a great day.
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2021/12/03 19:27:05
Subject: Re:Close Combat centric army
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Whilst not delivered in the best manner, Marshal has a mild point: perhaps you're trying to change army too often, having too many options or simply not emotionally investing in a collection? Hobby/army hopping can be a real problem and is something that usually is a symptom of another issue that you need to fix.
What leads you to want ro seek advice on army selection so often? What is it about your existing forces making you look elsewhere?
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