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OK, I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I've got the film on now and it just SCREAMS 40k:

"Spaceship gone through HELL and possessed" premise

Design elements of the Event Horizon - very gothic, temple-esque insides, right down to Roman numerals on the airlock ad an actual eight pointed star in the architecture

The Latin "Save Yourself From Hell" message...

It was made in 1997, meaning 40k had been around 10 years so was a thing but probably quite niche.. these things CAN'T be coincidences... can they? Am I watching the earliest 40k prequel right now?

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Nightcrawler's teleportation powers transported him through a hell dimension well before 40K and high gothic architecture is a very popular aesthetic for horror. It's very possible that it's pure coincidence.

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From Wiki: „ Screenwriter Philip Eisner acknowledged that Warhammer 40,000 influenced the story.[12] In its setting, starships travel the galaxy by passing through the Warp, a parallel dimension where faster-than-light travel is possible, similar to "hyperspace" in the Star Wars setting, but also inhabited by evil spirits that can infiltrate the ship and possess the crew if the ship isn't properly shielded. Fans consider Event Horizon an unofficial prequel to Warhammer 40,000, when humankind discovers the Warp and learns its dangers the hard way.”

I thought this was common knowledge amongst 40k fans? But maybe just old grognards like me, who saw the movie in theater when it premiered back during 2nd ed.

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Just head the line "A dimension of pure chaos" - this can't be coincidence!

@nou - thank you, I'll check that out

@Platuan4th - it's just too close for coincidence, there's so many things about it! What's Nightcrawler though, never heard of that?

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Even though the warhammer setting isnt really good fodder for any kind of movie, a lot of filmmakers have used compelling features and visual elements from the setting to their advantage. You can't tell me that the people who made Edge of Tomorrow didnt think sisters of battle were cool, after all.

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nou wrote:
From Wiki: „ Screenwriter Philip Eisner acknowledged that Warhammer 40,000 influenced the story.[12] In its setting, starships travel the galaxy by passing through the Warp, a parallel dimension where faster-than-light travel is possible, similar to "hyperspace" in the Star Wars setting, but also inhabited by evil spirits that can infiltrate the ship and possess the crew if the ship isn't properly shielded. Fans consider Event Horizon an unofficial prequel to Warhammer 40,000, when humankind discovers the Warp and learns its dangers the hard way.”

I thought this was common knowledge amongst 40k fans? But maybe just old grognards like me, who saw the movie in theater when it premiered back during 2nd ed.


I had not heard this but thanks to the OP for raising it because it’s perfect, personally. There’s so much difference in the way different animators and authors present the 40K universe and I think the depiction the he’ll dimension and the conflict the crew go through in real space, in this movie, is the best representation of 40K I’ve ever seen.

At least the core idea of chaos. It’s definitely grim dark.

Question is, the beings from hell dimension; Khorn, slaneesh, nurgle or tzeeench?
   
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 Skinflint Games wrote:
Just head the line "A dimension of pure chaos" - this can't be coincidence!

@nou - thank you, I'll check that out

@Platuan4th - it's just too close for coincidence, there's so many things about it! What's Nightcrawler though, never heard of that?


Nightcrawler is the blue-skinned horned and pointy-eared mutant freak who teleports with a BAMF sound-effect (because he's a BAMF, or something) from Marvel's X-men lineup. Was also in at least one of the x-men movies.

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nou wrote:

I thought this was common knowledge amongst 40k fans? But maybe just old grognards like me, who saw the movie in theater when it premiered back during 2nd ed.


I saw it in the cinema back when it was first released, and my mate and I didn't know it was a horror film! The first big jump scare that came up, my mate threw his popcorn over about 3 rows of the audience...
   
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Thanks for that post Nou - really interesting, there were definitely some obvious parallels but hadn't realised it was officially acknowledged!

I had read that it is one of the properties with some scripts and potential new productions doing the rounds of Hollywood at the moment, so it might be one of those franchises that we see again.

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Maybe what we’re seeing in EH is the origin story of a demon prince. Would love to see the main characters come back and terrorise a planet during the golden age
   
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I thought the general consensus was this was humanities first attempt into the warp (sans gellerfield) and they came back with a Slaaneshi possessed ship. Judging by what the crew did to each other and time shenanigans not withstanding.
   
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I have a feeling that it would pre date slaneesh as it’s set in sort of now times.

Humanity had colonised the stars when slaneesh was born and then we had all the warp storms and bad stuff
   
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That's why i say time shenanigans. As time doesn't work in the warp so Slaneesh has technically always existed despite not being "born" yet.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
That's why i say time shenanigans. As time doesn't work in the warp so Slaneesh has technically always existed despite not being "born" yet.


Ok, what is it that makes you think they are slaneesh though, could be khornite as they are very violent and the mind games could be the big TZ
   
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Did you see that scene of what the crew members were doing too each other? That wasn't Khornate slaughter going on.
   
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Question is, the beings from hell dimension; Khorn, slaneesh, nurgle or tzeeench?

Well, only one of those is actually a Chaos God - Nurgle - but I wouldn't say this is a Nurgle moment.

I'd also say it is neither a Khorne nor Tzeentch scenario, either.

Slaanesh, on the other hand... who, as a Chaos God, once he awoke from his slumber as the Eldar fell had (somehow) been around through all of time? Yeah, it is in their bag, for sure.

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Did you see that scene of what the crew members were doing too each other? That wasn't Khornate slaughter going on.


I haven’t seen it for a long time
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
mrFickle wrote:
Question is, the beings from hell dimension; Khorn, slaneesh, nurgle or tzeeench?

Well, only one of those is actually a Chaos God - Nurgle - but I wouldn't say this is a Nurgle moment.

I'd also say it is neither a Khorne nor Tzeentch scenario, either.

Slaanesh, on the other hand... who, as a Chaos God, once he awoke from his slumber as the Eldar fell had (somehow) been around through all of time? Yeah, it is in their bag, for sure.


I would say it was more of a generic 'chaos' in the early Slaves to Darkness type mould, rather than the later simplified version where everything has been split into the four different pantheons, and that's it.

Chaos as something from the original Michael Moorcock idea, the 'Pandoras box' that opens your mind to the universe, but explodes your head while doing so. (At least that was the sense I got from the film, has been a few years since I saw it).

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mrFickle wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Did you see that scene of what the crew members were doing too each other? That wasn't Khornate slaughter going on.


I haven’t seen it for a long time


It's basically Hellraiser in space, thematically.

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 Platuan4th wrote:
mrFickle wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Did you see that scene of what the crew members were doing too each other? That wasn't Khornate slaughter going on.


I haven’t seen it for a long time


It's basically Hellraiser in space, thematically.


^

TLDR is that they're having a cannibalistic torture orgy. Copulating, taking bites out of eachother, and being subjected to hellish BDSM torture gear. All at the same time.

It's very much the Slaanesh side of things. Not to mention the way the ship feths with people, and Weir in particular with how it capitalizes on his wife, leans heavily into Slaanesh's whole desire / extreme sensations / ect thing.

   
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 Platuan4th wrote:
mrFickle wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Did you see that scene of what the crew members were doing too each other? That wasn't Khornate slaughter going on.


I haven’t seen it for a long time


It's basically Hellraiser in space, thematically.

Um, wasn't that the actual "Hellraiser In Space" movie? Bloodlines, wasn't it?
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
mrFickle wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Did you see that scene of what the crew members were doing too each other? That wasn't Khornate slaughter going on.


I haven’t seen it for a long time


It's basically Hellraiser in space, thematically.

Um, wasn't that the actual "Hellraiser In Space" movie? Bloodlines, wasn't it?


First, we don't talk about that abomination.

Second, note the operative word at the end of my statement.

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Even though the warhammer setting isnt really good fodder for any kind of movie, a lot of filmmakers have used compelling features and visual elements from the setting to their advantage. You can't tell me that the people who made Edge of Tomorrow didnt think sisters of battle were cool, after all.


Dunno how aware japanese author who wrote the book it's based on is of sisters of battle. Maybe SOB influenced movie makers to change axe to sword but that's about it.

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tneva82 wrote:
 the_scotsman wrote:
Even though the warhammer setting isnt really good fodder for any kind of movie, a lot of filmmakers have used compelling features and visual elements from the setting to their advantage. You can't tell me that the people who made Edge of Tomorrow didnt think sisters of battle were cool, after all.


Dunno how aware japanese author who wrote the book it's based on is of sisters of battle. Maybe SOB influenced movie makers to change axe to sword but that's about it.


Not to mention All You Need is Kill was published 3 years before Sisters as we know them now were introduced.

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Yep. I have read the original book in original language. Nothing in movie that is related to SoB at all differs from the book. Biggest changes from book were nationality of hero(well duh) and ending.

Of course it's possible japanese author is fan of 40k and knew sisters from before but odds are small The Rita herself in movie is pretty much what he was on book though so I would say movie makers more likely just followed book rather than know about 40k sisters.

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Branching off slightly, what other cinema would you good folks say is heavily inspired by 40k?
   
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leerm02 wrote:
Branching off slightly, what other cinema would you good folks say is heavily inspired by 40k?


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leerm02 wrote:
Branching off slightly, what other cinema would you good folks say is heavily inspired by 40k?


I think Riddick has some 40K Vibes.
Overall it's hard to say if movies are heavily inspired by 40K, since 40K itself is a hodgepodge of SF-Tropes. You find something similar to the Imperium in Dune, but that's because Dune was an inspiration fpr 40K . Every dystopia could show a planet within the Imperium. I'd need Space Orks to say that something was inspired by 40K.
   
 
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