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Everyone thought Minsc was crazy, but it turns out he was just a wargamer from the future. He didn't have a miniature giant space hamster, he had a miniature of a giant space hamster!
Go for the eyes, Boo. GO FOR THE EYES! RrraaaAAGHGHH!
Spelljammer is definitely one of the most, if not THE most, underrated settings in D&D.
Especially considering the deeper lore of the Phlogiston. There is a lot to unpack and explore. Its almost as if spelljammer brings fantasy to an already fantasy setting.
I urge others who arent aware of how
Spelljammer ideas function, to explore the concept of the spheres more closely.
That said, space clowns can just go die in a fire. Flapjack is awesome. Prepainted is an interest killer.
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I haven't seen anything the ships will be in a separate set, though I hope they do that.
Hard to tell scale, but being Wizkids I imagine the size will be around the size of the Star Trek ships, on 28mm bases, and certainly not any bigger than a "Large" creature base.
I'd expect to see one of the ships - probably a nautaloid or maybe a hammerhead (though I'd prefer a Tradesman...er, I mean "Flying Fish" :eyeroll as a huge model if the line sells well.
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Of course one of those packs includes 2 asteroids so I dunno if you want to count that as a real model
Ergh, that comes out to about $15-$20 per ship (I'm not counting the Asteroids, everybody else with sense would do cardboard chits for those). Don't really feel like that's worth it, that's X-Wing painted mini cost with visibly poorer detail and paint.
Maybe they'll make them available unpainted in singles 6-8 months down the road?
They do. They know their audience. Its why they're mashing the nostalgia button so hard before really talking about the setting changes...
(Someone up thread mentioned the Phologiston, for example, but oops, no, that's gone now. You'll be sailing the Astral Sea, because it fits the current cosmology. Crystal Spheres are gone, too)
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: To me, $15-$20 per ship is a big ask for nostalgia. Especially for the anticipated quality.
I guess I’ll wait for the hand of miniature market to move again.
Good luck. Wizkids is high on their own supply lately. $50 for 7 kobolds! They doubled/tripled the price of their larger unpainted figs!. They used to offer decent value larger unpainted figures at least, but have decided to charge GW rates for Bones quality.
Hopefully someone sees a market for a 3d print of the astral devourer, since Wizkids is unlikely to release an unpainted one for a reasonable amount. I've wanted one since the original Manual of the Planes.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: To me, $15-$20 per ship is a big ask for nostalgia. Especially for the anticipated quality.
I guess I’ll wait for the hand of miniature market to move again.
Good luck. Wizkids is high on their own supply lately. $50 for 7 kobolds! They doubled/tripled the price of their larger unpainted figs!. They used to offer decent value larger unpainted figures at least, but have decided to charge GW rates for Bones quality.
Hopefully someone sees a market for a 3d print of the astral devourer, since Wizkids is unlikely to release an unpainted one for a reasonable amount. I've wanted one since the original Manual of the Planes.
I thought all those multipart kits are HIPS and not PVC? Which $7 a figure (which includes licensing) isn't horrible.
Monkeysloth wrote: I thought all those multipart kits are HIPS and not PVC? Which $7 a figure (which includes licensing) isn't horrible.
You are correct. The kobolds are part of the Frameworks line which is multipart, customizable figs*. The arguing over the price was already done so not rehashing it here but yes they are a different line than the prepainted monopose.
*They kept getting delayed and some places just recieved them recently and others still haven't gotten any. I got the half-orc barbarian to take a look at and he just arrived today.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: To me, $15-$20 per ship is a big ask for nostalgia. Especially for the anticipated quality.
I guess I’ll wait for the hand of miniature market to move again.
Good luck. Wizkids is high on their own supply lately. $50 for 7 kobolds! They doubled/tripled the price of their larger unpainted figs!. They used to offer decent value larger unpainted figures at least, but have decided to charge GW rates for Bones quality.
Hopefully someone sees a market for a 3d print of the astral devourer, since Wizkids is unlikely to release an unpainted one for a reasonable amount. I've wanted one since the original Manual of the Planes.
I thought all those multipart kits are HIPS and not PVC? Which $7 a figure (which includes licensing) isn't horrible.
These are goblin sized figures, fought in hordes. GW charges less for more. Frameworks are super overpriced for what they are, particularly given that unlike a Warhammer army you aren't going to be using the same figures over and over.
My main—only,really—interest is in the spaceships. I’d happily buy specific ships for the right price point, but very few of them are worth $15-$20. And I have to buy them in a blind box set? That’s gross.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: My main—only,really—interest is in the spaceships. I’d happily buy specific ships for the right price point, but very few of them are worth $15-$20. And I have to buy them in a blind box set? That’s gross.
FWIW, it looks like the 28mm monsters and characters are in blind boxes while ships are in specific $60 sets.
Voss wrote: They do. They know their audience. Its why they're mashing the nostalgia button so hard before really talking about the setting changes...
(Someone up thread mentioned the Phologiston, for example, but oops, no, that's gone now. You'll be sailing the Astral Sea, because it fits the current cosmology. Crystal Spheres are gone, too)
Really?
Ugh... The phlogiston and spheres were some of the distinctive elements of the setting.
Voss wrote: They do. They know their audience. Its why they're mashing the nostalgia button so hard before really talking about the setting changes...
(Someone up thread mentioned the Phologiston, for example, but oops, no, that's gone now. You'll be sailing the Astral Sea, because it fits the current cosmology. Crystal Spheres are gone, too)
Really?
Ugh... The phlogiston and spheres were some of the distinctive elements of the setting.
Yeah. That’s…..disappointing.
I’m now questioning my preorder of the books.
I won't really miss them either and the few times I did play in the setting back in 2e we pretty much ignored most of those concepts. Interesting ideas but felt really poorly implemented. Though it has been 25 years so maybe older me would appreciate it more.