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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Yeah, one of the Blackshields rules is that they get to take stuff like Lasguns and Autoguns. Very cursed but also very funny.

Haven't got my book yet, but are autocannons included in that? If so, then we have the perfect representation of outlaw chapters, IMHO.


No as that is already included in heavy support squad.

You can though take Heavy Stubbers though and those count as "Assault" in marine hands.

   
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Guard weapons on marines. Multilasers? Is Goto avenged?
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Guard weapons on marines. Multilasers? Is Goto avenged?

Greatly misunderstood visionary, way ahead of his time.
   
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 Sotahullu wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Yeah, one of the Blackshields rules is that they get to take stuff like Lasguns and Autoguns. Very cursed but also very funny.

Haven't got my book yet, but are autocannons included in that? If so, then we have the perfect representation of outlaw chapters, IMHO.


No as that is already included in heavy support squad.

You can though take Heavy Stubbers though and those count as "Assault" in marine hands.



That Oath does look very interesting. 1 in 3 can take a Heavy Stubber, and all characters as well if I recall correctly.

It allows Marines to really kick out some impressive amounts of fire low damage fire power. The sheer weight of attacks should cause some damage.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxMrGBtveU

New Valrak rumour video.

Mechanicum are getting at least some plastic robots. Holds up a Thanatar-Calix and says those are going plastic.

Previously discussed Marine box at some later point will be Mark II, and Saturnine pattern Terminators (I know there's no actual official source that big shoulder Termies are Saturnine pattern, don't at me).

Mark V is coming at some point, but doesn't know if it's before or after the Mark II box.

"Breachers upgrade kit" (no elaboration)

Also notes that this source isn't a regular one, so if you consider that a caveat you should do so.

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How to do "rumors" by Clownrak without having any actual data, episode 5786784.

An army that is like 90% robots will get 'some' robots in plastic. Big surprise, much wow. Not the actual kits, though, it would require him to steal the info from someone reliable first.

Marines get another box, super hard guess after 3 previous boxes (4 if you count SA). Or 25 boxes if you look how GW does 40K releases these days. Who could have seen this?

Next marine armor will be II or V, out of two missing armor marks. Not the actual mark, tho, or what unit will be next released in resin or anything, because it would be actual rumor, and that requires effort unlike impressing gullible kids with low hanging fruit "rumors" that anyone can guess. Ditto for saturnine, the only 'missing' TDA kit, funny that. Did he still spews that "rumor" GW will release plastic Warhound Titan any day now he started in 2014 or did he finally shut up about it after people were laughing at this claim in his comment sections for years now?

Most demanded unit will get upgrade kit. Like GW said multiple times on social media already. This is not even trying, but people with short memories will still be awed. Easy clicks and money here
   
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 Irbis wrote:
How to do "rumors" by Clownrak without having any actual data, episode 5786784.

An army that is like 90% robots will get 'some' robots in plastic. Big surprise, much wow. Not the actual kits, though, it would require him to steal the info from someone reliable first.

Marines get another box, super hard guess after 3 previous boxes (4 if you count SA). Or 25 boxes if you look how GW does 40K releases these days. Who could have seen this?

Next marine armor will be II or V, out of two missing armor marks. Not the actual mark, tho, or what unit will be next released in resin or anything, because it would be actual rumor, and that requires effort unlike impressing gullible kids with low hanging fruit "rumors" that anyone can guess. Ditto for saturnine, the only 'missing' TDA kit, funny that. Did he still spews that "rumor" GW will release plastic Warhound Titan any day now he started in 2014 or did he finally shut up about it after people were laughing at this claim in his comment sections for years now?

Most demanded unit will get upgrade kit. Like GW said multiple times on social media already. This is not even trying, but people with short memories will still be awed. Easy clicks and money here


Who are these reliable rumourmongers that Valrak steals his info from. You could have given us a link instead of an effort post.
   
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There is also Arkonak pattern Terminator armour, although we know basically nothing about it and it could be a post-Heresy design.

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That rumor seems kinda wishlists.

I'll wait until valrak has something from his usual source.

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I hope ‘Saturnine’ doesn’t mean the original Termie design with the huge domed shoulders. Not everything designed back then deserves to be brought back to life.

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 Snord wrote:
I hope ‘Saturnine’ doesn’t mean the original Termie design with the huge domed shoulders. Not everything designed back then deserves to be brought back to life.

Have you not seen that short video of a redesigned version of one of those old massive suits stomping along a corridor? They actually managed to make that goofy idea look badass. It’d be fun to see if GW can pull that off in static plastic.
Here:

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I'd better finish buying my resin Mechanicum then

   
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 stonehorse wrote:
 Sotahullu wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Yeah, one of the Blackshields rules is that they get to take stuff like Lasguns and Autoguns. Very cursed but also very funny.

Haven't got my book yet, but are autocannons included in that? If so, then we have the perfect representation of outlaw chapters, IMHO.


No as that is already included in heavy support squad.

You can though take Heavy Stubbers though and those count as "Assault" in marine hands.



That Oath does look very interesting. 1 in 3 can take a Heavy Stubber, and all characters as well if I recall correctly.

It allows Marines to really kick out some impressive amounts of fire low damage fire power. The sheer weight of attacks should cause some damage.


Someone did the math, and 1: Lasguns outshoot bolters at T4, at all ranges when dual-wielded, except fury+rapid at the same time, 2: double stub carbines do the same *With* rapid fire+fury. Not to mention the double guns giving +1 attacks means there's no reason to shell our for chainswords unless you really want that shred. Throwing a heavy stubber on top is just gravy. Also fun for veterans, because they can get their concussive shotgun and still take combis/nemesis.
   
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 Shadow Walker wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Guard weapons on marines. Multilasers? Is Goto avenged?

Greatly misunderstood visionary, way ahead of his time.


I just did a backflip in my indomitus pattern...like everyone should be able to when donning such technologically advanced gear
   
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Racerguy180 wrote:
I just did a backflip in my indomitus pattern...like everyone should be able to when donning such technologically advanced gear


That's not Goto tho, Terminator acrobatics are already present in foundational GW literature like Deathwing.


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 Snord wrote:
I hope ‘Saturnine’ doesn’t mean the original Termie design with the huge domed shoulders. Not everything designed back then deserves to be brought back to life.


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Racerguy180 wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Guard weapons on marines. Multilasers? Is Goto avenged?

Greatly misunderstood visionary, way ahead of his time.


I just did a backflip in my indomitus pattern...like everyone should be able to when donning such technologically advanced gear

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 lord_blackfang wrote:

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 Snord wrote:
I hope ‘Saturnine’ doesn’t mean the original Termie design with the huge domed shoulders. Not everything designed back then deserves to be brought back to life.


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I know there's no accounting for taste, but those look immeasurably worse than the original Saturnines in my opinion.

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 Irbis wrote:
How to do "rumors" by Clownrak without having any actual data, episode 5786784.

An army that is like 90% robots will get 'some' robots in plastic. Big surprise, much wow. Not the actual kits, though, it would require him to steal the info from someone reliable first.

Marines get another box, super hard guess after 3 previous boxes (4 if you count SA). Or 25 boxes if you look how GW does 40K releases these days. Who could have seen this?

Next marine armor will be II or V, out of two missing armor marks. Not the actual mark, tho, or what unit will be next released in resin or anything, because it would be actual rumor, and that requires effort unlike impressing gullible kids with low hanging fruit "rumors" that anyone can guess. Ditto for saturnine, the only 'missing' TDA kit, funny that. Did he still spews that "rumor" GW will release plastic Warhound Titan any day now he started in 2014 or did he finally shut up about it after people were laughing at this claim in his comment sections for years now?

Most demanded unit will get upgrade kit. Like GW said multiple times on social media already. This is not even trying, but people with short memories will still be awed. Easy clicks and money here


How to be irrationally angry that someone generated content: the thesis.

That aside, they could do with rescaling all the terminator marks at this point I think? So no, it's not obvious Saturnine is next. It's also not obvious that they'd bother making plastic mk 2 or 5 next, given they haven't rescultped 4 but they have done 3.

He was also right about mechanicum well before GW mentioned it - you might say it was obvious they'd do it eventually, but he was right about it being discussed close to the SA release.

Whether you buy into the rumours or not, you've provided the highest character count post on the content, so clearly it meant the most to you.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

I mean, I said that Mechanicum was going to be after Solar Auxilia...does that make me Valrak's source?
   
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I'd be pretty shocked to see Saturnine seeing as everything for the plastic range so far besides the Kratos has been replacements for resin kits.
Even extra units added via campaign books are just Consuls or upgrades like the Inductii. Plus it's ugly as sin and I have yet to fathom why it's so beloved.

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I would love for a "modern saturnine" pattern kit, the proportions would be much better & cataphractii like
   
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I do miss the old days when FW was churning out redesigns of old sculpts, feels like we haven't had anything like that for quite some time now.

Personally I would love to see the old "cobra" terminators make a comeback, they had a very unique design







   
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Looks like box art for a Sicaran Punisher on page 66 of beta Garmon.
   
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 Rihgu wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:

Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Snord wrote:
I hope ‘Saturnine’ doesn’t mean the original Termie design with the huge domed shoulders. Not everything designed back then deserves to be brought back to life.


--img snipped--


I know there's no accounting for taste, but those look immeasurably worse than the original Saturnines in my opinion.


Yes, I saw those designs when I was reminding myself what the original 'Saturnine' looked like, and despite some nice details I thought they still looked pretty silly. Especially the huge guns on their heads. Although these models do demonstrate how much difference a cool paintjob makes.

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 Irbis wrote:
How to do "rumors" by Clownrak without having any actual data, episode 5786784.

An army that is like 90% robots will get 'some' robots in plastic. Big surprise, much wow. Not the actual kits, though, it would require him to steal the info from someone reliable first.

Marines get another box, super hard guess after 3 previous boxes (4 if you count SA). Or 25 boxes if you look how GW does 40K releases these days. Who could have seen this?

Next marine armor will be II or V, out of two missing armor marks. Not the actual mark, tho, or what unit will be next released in resin or anything, because it would be actual rumor, and that requires effort unlike impressing gullible kids with low hanging fruit "rumors" that anyone can guess. Ditto for saturnine, the only 'missing' TDA kit, funny that. Did he still spews that "rumor" GW will release plastic Warhound Titan any day now he started in 2014 or did he finally shut up about it after people were laughing at this claim in his comment sections for years now?

Most demanded unit will get upgrade kit. Like GW said multiple times on social media already. This is not even trying, but people with short memories will still be awed. Easy clicks and money here


My my. Aren't you just jealous how others find out what's coming before you do?


Stings a lot it seems
   
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I'd probably prefer Tartaros or Cataphractii to be redone to Saturnine, but keen to see what they come up with if true.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like box art for a Sicaran Punisher on page 66 of beta Garmon.


Doubt it, looks like the same resin Salamanders Sicaran Punisher currently shown on their webstore (transfers match). If they'd done the Punisher in plastic it would be in SOH or IF colours

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Tartaros and Cataphractii in scale with Mk6/3 would certainly be welcome, but not if they're comically oversized like Indomitus and not if all the current bits are parted out into separate upgrade kits.

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The remakes are often pretty loose with the source material. The Contemptor and Deredeo modernisations are considerably altered from the Rogue Trader versions with only the vague concepts carried through IMO.

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 Haighus wrote:
The remakes are often pretty loose with the source material. The Contemptor and Deredeo modernisations are considerably altered from the Rogue Trader versions with only the vague concepts carried through IMO.


Chuck, Eddy and Fury were fun designs, back when they were just another form of armour and not a walking tomb
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Tartaros and Cataphractii in scale with Mk6/3 would certainly be welcome, but not if they're comically oversized like Indomitus and not if all the current bits are parted out into separate upgrade kits.


Didn't the current plastic Tartaros come out alongside the current Mk6 Marines? Shouldn't they be in scale with each other already?
   
 
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