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Mad Gyrocopter Pilot





Northumberland

Areet folks,

Now I would have thought there was a thread on this already but I'll be buggered if I can find any recent.

Amazon have released a proper sized trailer ahead of the eventual release this September.





Now I was a little dismissive at first given some of the teaser pictures, especially of the Elves, but I have to say that was a pretty solid trailer.

The city scapes looked very interesting and I liked how the Dwarves looked. Honestly of all of them, the Hobbits have a truly fascinating look. They don't look quite as pastoral as they do in the Third Age. They look more like bogles or some fey folk of the woods.

The Orcs looked truly grim in the photos although I didn't spot any in the trailer there.

For all the tedious whinging people get up to online, I find it difficult for someone to complain too much. Well, unless you're one of those.

To me, it can't be worse than what Peter Jackson did to the Hobbit. I see a lot of the earlier complaints saying it doesn't look like the Peter Jackson stuff. Which is fine, neither have earlier adaptions. PJ isn't the be all and end all of Tolkein.

I am starting to look forward to it.


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It does look good. Bollocks - I'm going to have to give some money to Amazon. Maybe I can binge it on a free trial.
   
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 Olthannon wrote:

For all the tedious whinging people get up to online, I find it difficult for someone to complain too much. Well, unless you're one of those.


As someone who had no interest in this series based on the previous teasers and the cringe "super fans" thing, I feel that had they led with this, a good portion of the tedious whinging would've never materialized.

Looking forward to it.

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I'm still pretty skeptical given their response to fan-backlash and I'm sure that this trailer is partly damage control towards that, so I'll be holding off for a good while or using "online" sources to get a look at whether or not they've done a decent adaptation or not.
   
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Looks good but I don't have any subscription services.

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Northumberland

 nels1031 wrote:


As someone who had no interest in this series based on the previous teasers and the cringe "super fans" thing, I feel that had they led with this, a good portion of the tedious whinging would've never materialized.

Looking forward to it.


I think to some extent yes, some of the teasers were just pointless. Unfortunately, I think part of that problem was trying a bit too hard to make sure people are talking about it. However, there are a good portion who are really determined to spit and mash keyboards.

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Coming to the defense of a heartless multinational corporation and all that, but there is certainly an amount of VFX work in this preview that they would definitely not have finished in time if they had opened with it and wanted to keep with the current schedule, but the woeful state of the VFX industry is a topic all its own.

Overall the trailer looks pretty decent, someone said it looked 'glossy' and I definitely see that, there's a certain soft focus sheen to Amazon studio stuff that I'm not a fan of, but they've nailed the overall aesthetic which despite all the clickbait whining is the first actual hurdle they had, so good for them.

I do think they were a bit dishonest with the talk about 'before there was a sunrise' and showing the two trees, and then going on to show what is clearly Numenor and hobbits and men and everybody interacting with dwarves and so forth. I'm assuming that the shot of the trees (and possibly the narration as well, though that may be awkward trailer dialogue) is part of a flashback sequence, since I really can't see them trying to cram the (extremely metal) Feanor stuff into a series that already features Gil-Galad and Isildur and such.

   
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California

I'm pretty sure it's going to suck. It'll probably be entertaining as any popcorn flick would be. I'm just not convinced the storytelling here will be worth the hours of my time needed to see it through from beginning to end.

 
   
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 Captain Joystick wrote:

I do think they were a bit dishonest with the talk about 'before there was a sunrise' and showing the two trees, and then going on to show what is clearly Numenor and hobbits and men and everybody interacting with dwarves and so forth. I'm assuming that the shot of the trees (and possibly the narration as well, though that may be awkward trailer dialogue) is part of a flashback sequence, since I really can't see them trying to cram the (extremely metal) Feanor stuff into a series that already features Gil-Galad and Isildur and such.


Yeah, I can't really tell what this is about anymore. I seem to remember the original summary was Numenor, but this narration seems to be about Galadriel's PTSD and an interesting event that just happened before the show starts (always a good sign), the title suggests its about the 3, the 7 and the 9, the images are about Men interacting with everybody that matters, and for no apparent reason there's a D plot involving a feral hobbit migration.

The latter suggests a high level of studio interference (Its Tolkien, you've got to have Hobbits!), or the writers/director are very unfocused and don't have a real story in mind and are just going to flail all over the continent with poorly connected subplots that don't really matter.

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Hot Sauron though...
   
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 nels1031 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:

For all the tedious whinging people get up to online, I find it difficult for someone to complain too much. Well, unless you're one of those.


As someone who had no interest in this series based on the previous teasers and the cringe "super fans" thing, I feel that had they led with this, a good portion of the tedious whinging would've never materialized.


No, the tedious whinging would've still materialized.

   
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Northumberland

I have to say that's a much better trailer. The Dwarves still look a little comedic but it's shaping up pretty well. The orcs and the Harfoot hobbits are the best looking to my eyes.

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I'm very pleased they appear to have mostly gone for practical orcs like LOTR rather than CGI like the Hobbit.
   
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It looks.....ok I guess

I really like the Lady of Loth Lorien but i dunno its not grabbing me yet - thought the D+D film looked more fun but looks worth a watch still

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Northumberland

My biggest problem with it at the minute is Sauron looking like fething Eminem

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Starting to get a bit hype for this.

If nothing else the production values make it look amazing. I hope it’s more than pretty visual of course.

   
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California

 Olthannon wrote:
My biggest problem with it at the minute is Sauron looking like fething Eminem


Kinda reminded me of a less creepy version of satan from Passion of the Christ. Do we really know if thats him though or some kind of leader of black numenoreans?

 
   
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Hard pass from me. The more of this I see the more stupid it seems.

OG LOTR movies are still pinnacle of adaptation for Tolkiens work, and a complete masterpiece work of art in its own right IMO.

Id rather watch the extended edition back to back for all 3 of those films than anything presented in these trailers.

D&D movie looks sick tho..

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I will require all the Dwarves to have proper beards. I have read too much Pratchett to be able to think of a female or male dwarf without a beard!
   
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Northumberland

Thargrim wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
My biggest problem with it at the minute is Sauron looking like fething Eminem


Kinda reminded me of a less creepy version of satan from Passion of the Christ. Do we really know if thats him though or some kind of leader of black numenoreans?


Aye it is confirmed to be him. As someone who can pick any form, not sure why they went for that.

The_Real_Chris wrote:I will require all the Dwarves to have proper beards. I have read too much Pratchett to be able to think of a female or male dwarf without a beard!


Yeah this is a gripe alright. I mean why can't lady Dwarves have beards? People complain about there being some black folk in lord of the rings but they should be pouring all that into this terrible oversight.

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Well it looks like this is predating anything to do with the hobit and LotR. So this could be the story of how he tricked them all into taking the rings of power. A big strong evil looking guy is going to turn people away from his gifts.


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Prequels are always a bad idea.

Except for Strange New World.

And Star Wars Clone Wars.

And the other Star Wars Clone Wars.

But except for them, bad idea.

 
   
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Rogue One, Bumblee, Wonder Woman, Temple of Doom, and Xmen First Class are all very good prequel movies and IMO Revenge of the Sith is cursed but also very good. Halo Wars and Reach are both prequels and very very good games.
Prequels aren't automatically bad.
   
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You forgot to include Prometheus and Covenant.

Oh wait.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
You forgot to include Prometheus and Covenant.

Oh wait.



 
   
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Covenant is fine. Prometheus is hot garbage.

The xenomorphs never moved around better then the one did in the 3rd act of covenant.


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Northumberland

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, arguably one of the best prequels ever.

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 Olthannon wrote:


Yeah this is a gripe alright. I mean why can't lady Dwarves have beards? People complain about there being some black folk in lord of the rings but they should be pouring all that into this terrible oversight.


I know!!! Women, non Europeans, cubby elves, who really cares? But a Dwarf without a beard is either a dangerous radical, recently freed from Goblin captivity https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/collectingjohnpickford/images/1/11/GOB26_Goblins_Torturing_Dwarf_%285%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130628212235, or just a wierdo.

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I will give them a chance, but I am skeptical and will not tolerate any desecration of the source material. They need to at least be faithful to it and not do dumb woke stuff just for the sake of woke stuff.

Strictly speaking, Elrond shouldn't be the doubter that evil is still around. He was one of the wise who did not believe Annatar's lies and was skeptical of what he said.

 Olthannon wrote:
My biggest problem with it at the minute is Sauron looking like fething Eminem


I actually have zero issue with Sauron being... Sexy. Alluring. Enticing...

Sauron took on a fair form, calling himself Annatar(Lord of Gifts) he claimed to be an emissary of the Valar and offered knowledge to the elves. Gil-galad and Elrond mistrusted him and sent him away, but he found willing ears in Celebrimbor.

Later, he challenges Ar-Pharazon's pride by calling himself King of Men and Lord of the Earth. The Númenóreans launch a great host that was mighty enough to make all of Sauron's servants desert him, and Sauron surrenders without a fight and becomes a prisoner. All while in a fair form of course. But he uses his guile, beauty, and wiliness to rise from a prisoner to the chief advisor of Ar-Pharazon. It was all a trick, made possible with his fair form and fairer tongue.

It is only after the destruction of Númenór, in which Sauron's fair form was destroyed, by Eru that Sauron was no longer able to take a fair form. Mair can reform their bodies even if they are destroyed, but having the physical body slain still causes permanent damage. Gollum notes that Sauron only has 9 fingers when he is tortured by him, even 5000 years after Isildur cut the ring from his hand he cannot regrow the finger he lost. When he was drowned beneath the sea, his spirit took the ring back to Middle Earth, but he could no longer take a fair form again.

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