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How do!

According to the BBC, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-62406098, the forthcoming Batgirl movie has been scrapped.

Article cites a poor pre-screening reaction. But curiously, a pretty conservative budget of $70m.

That’s not a lot of money at all for a super hero movie, so one has to wonder just how bloody awful it turned out? I mean…DCEU has produced some utter stinkers, but none exactly box office bombs so much as disappointing.

   
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Batgirl/Batwoman does seem cursed...

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I’d caught a tidbit that said it was slated for a digital release and post acquisition the new bosses didn’t want to focus on that anymore.

 
   
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It just seems daft to have it in the can, then bin it.

Cancel pre-production sure. But at this stage? There’s got to be more to it, surely.

   
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Florence, KY

According to this SYFY article the studio reportedly opted to "cut its losses and run, for the sake of the brand’s future". The article also mentions "... that the shelving option allows the studio to "take a tax write-down on the film, seen internally as the most financially sound way to recoup the costs ... Doing so, however, would mean that Warner Bros. cannot monetize the movie — no HBO Max debut, no sale to another studio."".

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I concur with Mad Doc regarding the "how bad can it in ?" given it has at least some JK Simmonds then it mostly trumps all the DC other films bar Aquaman (moist Momoa, hhhm er, never confused me)

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Tax thing does make sense I suppose.

   
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Aquaman. Either the worst good movie or best bad movie of 2018. I'm inclined to vote for the latter.
   
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Oh boy. This will become infamous.....

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 Easy E wrote:
Oh boy. This will become infamous.....
Yep. I've got a VHS bootleg of the infamous 1994 Fantastic Four movie somewhere.
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
According to this SYFY article the studio reportedly opted to "cut its losses and run, for the sake of the brand’s future". The article also mentions "... that the shelving option allows the studio to "take a tax write-down on the film, seen internally as the most financially sound way to recoup the costs ... Doing so, however, would mean that Warner Bros. cannot monetize the movie — no HBO Max debut, no sale to another studio."".


I would have thought that if the film were released and it bombed then it could still be a tax write off. After all film studios do this even with films that are successful (e.g. Titanic).


I get the point about not wanting to tarnish the brand with a terrible film though. Still, with the DC movies that have made it to release in recent years this must have been a real stinker.
   
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So this was produced enough to screen to members of the public and they still canned it? That has to be some monumentally bad reaction if they don't think they can find anyway to redeem it to a releasable state. To be honest now they have canned it they would probably make enough at the box office to cover it out of sheer curiosity.
   
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beast_gts wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Oh boy. This will become infamous.....
Yep. I've got a VHS bootleg of the infamous 1994 Fantastic Four movie somewhere.


I had one, too! And it wasn't really that bad...

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From Variety:

“Batgirl” found itself on the bad end of that decision, apparently neither big enough to feel worthy of a major theatrical release nor small enough to make economic sense in an increasingly cutthroat streaming landscape. Spending the money to expand the scope of “Batgirl” for theaters — plus the $30 million to $50 million needed to market it domestically and the tens of millions more needed for a global rollout — could have nearly doubled spending on the film, and insiders say that was a non-starter at a company newly focused on belt-tightening and the bottom line.

Releasing the movie on HBO Max would seem to be the most obvious solution. Instead, the company has shelved “Batgirl” — along with the “Scoob!” sequel — and several sources say it will almost certainly take a tax write-down on both films, seen internally as the most financially sound way to recoup the costs (at least, on an accountant’s ledger). It could justify that by chalking it up to a post-merger change of strategy.

Doing so, however, would mean that Warner Bros. cannot monetize either movie — no HBO Max debut, no sale to another studio.

What the decision will cost the studio in creative capital, meanwhile, remains to be seen.
   
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Tallonian4th wrote:
So this was produced enough to screen to members of the public and they still canned it? That has to be some monumentally bad reaction if they don't think they can find anyway to redeem it to a releasable state. To be honest now they have canned it they would probably make enough at the box office to cover it out of sheer curiosity.


According to the bbc article (well, the new york post article the bbc quotes), yeah. It tested... poorly. To the point that they didn't show anything at Comic-con, or even mention it at the DC comics panel, which is grim.
And on top, the new boss doesn't like streaming, apparently.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-62406098

https://nypost.com/2022/08/02/batgirl-movie-gets-shelved-by-warner-bros-source/

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Warner Bros has been something of a bloodbath since the sale. I don't think anything is going to make a lot of sense for a while until someone figures out what they want to do with what I suspect was more of an IP acquisition than any interest in any sort of media output.
   
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Not wanting to tarnish the brand yet still planning to release Ezra Millers flash.......
The cynic in me thinks some sexism might be happening

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But even Disney put out the woeful Young X-Men film I still haven’t seen.

I mean….the money is spent? And it wasn’t your money anyway.

I’m kind of morbidly curious to find out what the reaction actually was.

No. Not Morb’dly Curious. I’ll never be curious enough to watch a film with that cretin in it.

   
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Voss wrote:
Tallonian4th wrote:
So this was produced enough to screen to members of the public and they still canned it? That has to be some monumentally bad reaction if they don't think they can find anyway to redeem it to a releasable state. To be honest now they have canned it they would probably make enough at the box office to cover it out of sheer curiosity.


According to the bbc article (well, the new york post article the bbc quotes), yeah. It tested... poorly. To the point that they didn't show anything at Comic-con, or even mention it at the DC comics panel, which is grim.
And on top, the new boss doesn't like streaming, apparently.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-62406098

https://nypost.com/2022/08/02/batgirl-movie-gets-shelved-by-warner-bros-source/


Wow I'm now really curious to see how bad it is!

Worrying the new execs don't like streaming. That smacks of Blockbuster levels of ignoring how the industry is moving.
   
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Streaming thing could be seeing the main competition to be Netflix (losing subscribers) Amazon (other sources of revenue, Prime just part of their pie and already a decent amount of VOD and purchases) and of course Disney+….which is a juggernaut unto to itself thanks to tactical acquisition of valuable properties.

Paramount+ is a bit of a damp squib to me. No idea how it’s been received.

But The Big Three have more content each than WB can really put on such a platform. They could put it up as a channel on Prime, but that’s auto-competing for watch time as it is.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But even Disney put out the woeful Young X-Men film I still haven’t seen.

I mean….the money is spent? And it wasn’t your money anyway.

I’m kind of morbidly curious to find out what the reaction actually was.

No. Not Morb’dly Curious. I’ll never be curious enough to watch a film with that cretin in it.


What about the Batgirl, Morbius, Ugly Sonic cinematic universe?

On a side note, I'm feeling SLIGHTLY robbed of not getting Ugly Super Sonic.
   
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To not get released the film must have been worse than Catwoman.

That doesn't bear thinking about.
   
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 Henry wrote:
To not get released the film must have been worse than Catwoman.

That doesn't bear thinking about.


Sweet googly moogly what a horrific but accurate point!


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 Henry wrote:
To not get released the film must have been worse than Catwoman.

That doesn't bear thinking about.


You can go see Ugly Sonic in that film that recently came out that wasn’t a Sonic film but featured Ugly Sonic. Just like everyone else.

I’ve seen that movie, I enjoyed that movie. Couldn’t tell you it’s name though, which I accept isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement.


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To be fair, different people are making the call on acceptable quality, but now I want my bootleg to have a "Worse than Catwoman" sticker on it.
   
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It must have had such a bad testing result (even worse than Ruby Rose)

(or they've got significant financial issues that mean a significant tax write off is really needed for the business/for the current head honcho in which case it could have had a positive response and it would have been done for anyway)

 
   
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Not wanting to tarnish the brand yet still planning to release Ezra Millers flash.......
The cynic in me thinks some sexism might be happening


Removed.

Warner Bros legit are holding onto some bad apple actors at the moment, between Amber Heard with her recent dumpster fire of a trial with Johnny Depp and Ezra Miller's whole grooming and insanity using the trans label to justify his actions, WB really needs to clean house. Also, I'm shocked at how reluctant they are at using Henry Cavill for more Superman stuff.

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Probably related:

HBO Max is expected to layoff around 70% of their development staff.

“Sounds like they’re not doing HBO Max scripted shows anymore with HBO taking over, so less scripted shows overall,” says one company insider.

(Source: https://thewrap.com/hbo-max-layoffs-warner-bros-discovery-q2-earnings-preview/)
   
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Wow. Time Warner just keeps spending money to make streaming services and then burning them to the ground.

Dc universe and now HBO max. Its fun to watch them burn through their money at least.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Not wanting to tarnish the brand yet still planning to release Ezra Millers flash.......
That film has been finished for a while - it was meant to be out last month - and cost a hell of a lot more than this Batgirl film.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
The cynic in me thinks some sexism might be happening
That's daft.

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