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Booming Thunderer




New England/cyberspace

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Anyone else finding this year pretty lacklustre so far?


Yep. The Vault has not been updated since October.
   
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Terrifying Wraith




Content like Hammer and Bolter with very basic animation, short runtimes, and self-contained plots so no need for an overarching writing team really shouldn't be difficult for GW to gak out in massive quantities. I'd kind of forgotten I was subbed to Warhammer+ and think at this point that's what GW are banking on, because it really hasn't borne out to be worth it overall.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Hammer and Bolter was also pretty solid story and art wise. The various animations captured the flavour of each setting really well

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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord




I wonder how much of it is tied into the amazon deal, maybe they've had to stop/slow some unfinished works for amazon to polish off or due to staff having to work on that side of the fence.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Or potentially they've shifted into putting more budget into fewer creations. Which might mean fewer shows but higher production values later in the year.

Or its hit the roadblock of doing what it was intended to do (get a big firm like Amazon behind it) and now its got caught in a catch where they can't get the budget until the Amazon deal pays off to see how well it works.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




I always thinking that GW isn’t sure what they want to do with it as a whole.
Like they got ideas, but still Working it out.

If not for a mini (Which my account is still screwed up on.) I wouldn’t even bother. I log in every 3 months and watch for an afternoon and done.
And the minis I don’t think would get me to sign up on their own ether.
   
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Fixture of Dakka





That Armiger was going down Hudson-style.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Fixture of Dakka





NightReconnaissance wrote:

Honestly that Chaos Knight looks wrong and off with only the almost perfect replicated miniature star on it's hood.


To me its the texture work on it. The corroded look doesn't feel like its eaten into the 3D render right and gives it a softer, almost leather texture.
   
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman




Knee deep in bone ash, gore and mud

Sorry, but to me that teaser looks attrociously bad.

The only thing remotely good are the 3D models, they have issues, but look decent enough in the static screenshots. that's a common trick, screenshots can be rendered really quickly. Animation rendering takes a lot of CPU time and compression does the rest. Hence the animated quality is usually a lot worse than the stand stills.

Obvious bad things:
- animation looks static and wonky, I am being reminded of 1999 gameplay animation. As if the knights are driving on a rail. For better examples: Compare that to the motion of the dreadnought in the DoW 1 intro. Or the Dreadnoughts in the parade in the Lord Inquisitor Prologue.
- everything sound is terrible: sfx, voices, mixing and music. In fact the sound must be so attrociously bad, that they did not dare show any of it in the trailer, apart from some very ill-timed music and 2 voice lines that are again both too silent and with too little bass.
- half the teaser is: show 2 seconds screen time, then 2 seconds black screen. repeat. They are already stalling for time on a 45sec. teaser? What ever it is, it will be over quickly. They cleary have no material after 3 years of development.
- no plot, they only show us some walking knights and some minor explosions. and both these things look bad.
- I am getting a migraine from the fps drops that are intended to show that the Knights have "weight"
- the color grading is too dark. They use darkness to cover for missing details/colors. Thats like equivalent of dipping your models in wash and calling it "grim dark style".
- We didn't see a single face, so I guess they solve the problem of wonky face animations with everyone just wears a helmet or it's too dark to see their face

This looks dead on arrival to me.

Compare that to Helsreach, which I think is fair because by the animation style it looks like that is from the same guy.
1. Take an awesome story
2. turn it into an awesome audio book
3. run an animation over it

Yes the animations were bad, but because the core of the story is good, it is super entertaining.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight

So, Broken Lance has finally been released and it was okay. The animation was clunky, the facial animations in particular felt off, reminding me a lot of the talking heads from the first two Fallout games. The Knights were clunky and cumbersome, not at all feeling like the amazing war machines that could run at full tilt and go toe to toe with monsters. The Armigers did have speed and agility going for them, that was nice. Story was fine, not posting any spoilers here, but went about how I thought it would.



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I thought it was awesome 😁
   
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Knee deep in bone ash, gore and mud

I have to admit, it was better than what thought it would be based on the teaser. But it still wasn't good enough for me to recommend it to someone. And considering that it is the one and only part makes me wonder why it took them 2 years to complete, that is 1 minute per month of screen time.

The best part: The first minutes where they retell the history of the knight house, with banners and lots of details. Some nice world building for Knight fans.
Notable: the sound is a lot better compared to Angels of Death, still room for improvement though.
The worst part: Half the thing was an old crone's "rambling" and me just waiting for her to come to the obvious point.

I give Knight in the Retirement Castle 4/10. Would not watch again in the foreseeable future.
   
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Then the question must be asked, a question we will all have to ask our selves in the middle of summer. "To renew our subscriptions or cancel in hopes that someday the live action stuff will be better." The 3 to 4 years will be a long wait for that. I'm sure warhammer plus will try to bait us on their next year worth of contant and we will contemplate on what was offered the last 12 months and decide if we even still care

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight

I will not be renewing myself, the offerings have been very, very meagre and the only real saving grace has been the mini for me this year.

Has anything else been announced on the animated front for this year?



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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

I think the slow heavy mechs was a good choice to help convey their sense of power, size and the heavy rugged nature of Imperial technology. Perhaps a touch too overbearing, but I think it worked well to convey such without them having to model every footfall in super high detail to convey weight and such.

I rather enjoyed the Crones rambling; but as has been an issue with other 3d ventures the lip sync and such isn't the best so that can detract/distract a bit.

Overall enjoyable and I like the story twist. It's not top tier but I'd say its a solid B for Warhammer productions.

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Mighty Vampire Count






UK

I enjoyed it - and nice to get some actual content I enjoy rather than painting stuff etc

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Longtime Dakkanaut




Ireland

That wasn't great.

Plot was a bit meh, and felt like a very bare bones idea stretched to fill a longer than needed run time.

Animation was, painful to watch at times, the mouth movements were just bad.

The only decent thing about this was the Armigers, those looked great.

Another poor showing from Warhammer+.

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Stoic Grail Knight





Central Cimmeria

I'm surprised anyone is still paying for this. At best subscribers seem to be ambivalent about majority of the content. You did get some cool minis though!
   
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Rampaging Chaos Russ Driver





Albany, NY

Watching Broken Lance now... this sure looks like a game intro from ten years ago. I haven't watched any of the W+ fiction stuff in a while, it's still embarrassing.
Edit: I have finished. It didn't get better. Making everything dark and foggy didn't successfully hide how crappy everything looks.

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 Gallahad wrote:
I'm surprised anyone is still paying for this. At best subscribers seem to be ambivalent about majority of the content. You did get some cool minis though!


mini is what keeps me, But probably not worth it. As a package it’s been ok, but I wouldn’t buy these minis alone, and I only sign onto the app when this thread tells me too at this point.
   
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Knee deep in bone ash, gore and mud

 BrookM wrote:
I will not be renewing myself, the offerings have been very, very meagre and the only real saving grace has been the mini for me this year.

Has anything else been announced on the animated front for this year?


Short answer is no. Pariah Nexus gets a sequel, but we don't know when that will happen.

The Trailer for this season also has no more hints:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od43uRmfGLo

So likely that was it until September
   
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba




The Great State of New Jersey

Yeah, I pay for the year in one burst mainly for the minis and the vouchers for the first two years. This year they gave crappy merch vouchers which I didn't use because I don't have any interest in merch.

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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar





Upstate, New York

chaos0xomega wrote:
Yeah, I pay for the year in one burst mainly for the minis and the vouchers for the first two years. This year they gave crappy merch vouchers which I didn't use because I don't have any interest in merch.


First two years the total package was a lot better. None of the individual parts was anything to write home about, but collectively I thought they were worth the price.

The mech vouchers are also worthless to me. I checked out the catalog, but even with a discount, nothing seemed worth it.

The shows are a lot thinner this year. I might have low expectations, but I’ve enjoyed watching what they have. But what they have is not a whole lot. I like the loremasters, but the paint is getting real repetitive, and the animation is few and far between.

App access is nice?

Minis are a big draw, but I’ve still got them all unbuilt. Other stuff to do in the PoS.

Unless they do better next year, this might be my last.

   
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Fixture of Dakka





Just finished "watching" Broken Lance and it was surprisingly better than I thought it would be, as it had a little bit more to it than just gratuitous Knight-porn.

If this was a series I'd probably consider a subscription. Can't believe I've just said that...

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Had a day thinking about broken lance, it feels like it was too long for what we got and too short for what they wanted to do.

But I did think it was a ok single episode show, the actual dialogue could have been cleaned up a bit.
And the actual battles I feel where to much, rather than brutal snapshots.

I actually think GW could get a lot from like 5 min shorts of battles in the 40K universe.
Since it seems like we are jist waiting for so long for one thing that really doesn’t do much.
   
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Fireknife Shas'el





Leicester

I’m with Nev; an exclusive model, a GW shop voucher and a reasonable drumbeat of animations (even if the quality was…variable) was worth the price of admission, but this year in particular has been very dry of content to justify the price

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 Zed wrote:
*All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




I didn;t renew after the seond year when I realised that I hadn't really used it for about 3 months,

I was thinking about another year when the next minis are released as Would have lots to catch up on, but I don't think that is actually the case, so I'll probably give it a miss for another year.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





It definitely has the feeling of a project that lost its original sponsor, but is generating too much cashflow so no one wants to kill it, so they let it limp along with few resources.

I just wish they'd stop trying to make it do everything and focus on the app + minis:

1) Minis were exceptional. A 50mm "Centerpiece" quality hero" or an Underworld's team should be the target.
2) There was a steady drumbeat of app improvements
3) Pre-order guarantee queuing system for limited release items

The animations are cool, but IMHO, I'd rather they were posted somewhere for free to encourage new players to pick up the game. The money feels like a total rip-off compared to a streaming service, but it feels reasonable for a nice model and a great app.
   
 
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