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While I have some quibbles about some of the recent offerings the simple fact is there has never been as much Star Wars/Trek content out there as there is today. And a good 70%-80% is watchable!

But insatiability is part of the human condition so it's worth asking what do we really want to see?

For me my dream Star Trek show would be an Expanse style political drama set soon after the invention of warp drive/first contact. The world devastated by WWIII, nations competing to see who will command FTL travel, Luddites and isolationists opposing it, Khan's genetic upgrades running around, idealists trying to launch Earth first interstellar ship (oh let's call it Enterprise, why not), and Vulcans trying to make sense of this madness.

For Star Wars, I would love to see the Legacy Era. Luke Skywalker's grandson is a drug addicted bounty hunter, the Empire, Sith, Jedi and New Republic are all fighting for the top slot... It was a great comic and would make a great setting with all 4 factions you want to see.

Id like to see a decent Rogue Squadron series. The books were very much in the vein of Space Above and beyond, and if they had made SAAB in the star wars setting and with their ships, I could watch that for days!

I know there is a film coming along on this topic, but a series would allow a much nicer exploration of the trials, victories and losses of a front line combat squadron.

Thinking of the various other genres out there, have they done a Star Wars crime procedural?

Like Castle, but with Jedi

Was always fond of the Thrawn vs Zaarin storyline from LucasArts' Tie-Fighter. That was a bit of a golden time to be a Star Wars fan...

For me I want a naval drama Star Trek in the vein of Hornblower or Aubrey-Maturin.

i.e. a drama set in the midshipman's berth on a patched up old Excelsior-class starship in the blocade squadron of space-Brest.
The ship would definetily not be the cream of starfleet; the ship would have a few gripes and be heavy around the left nacelle, the first lieutenant would be a disciplinarian with a chip on his shoulder from being passed over for promotion so many times and the doctor an old soak who can barely be relied upon to laser the right leg off!

 Kroem wrote:
For me I want a naval drama Star Trek in the vein of Hornblower or Aubrey-Maturin.

i.e. a drama set in the midshipman's berth on a patched up old Excelsior-class starship in the blocade squadron of space-Brest.
The ship would definetily not be the cream of starfleet; the ship would have a few gripes and be heavy around the left nacelle, the first lieutenant would be a disciplinarian with a chip on his shoulder from being passed over for promotion so many times and the doctor an old soak who can barely be relied upon to laser the right leg off!

I think you just described the pitch meeting for Lower Decks

 Flinty wrote:

 Kroem wrote:
For me I want a naval drama Star Trek in the vein of Hornblower or Aubrey-Maturin.

i.e. a drama set in the midshipman's berth on a patched up old Excelsior-class starship in the blocade squadron of space-Brest.
The ship would definetily not be the cream of starfleet; the ship would have a few gripes and be heavy around the left nacelle, the first lieutenant would be a disciplinarian with a chip on his shoulder from being passed over for promotion so many times and the doctor an old soak who can barely be relied upon to laser the right leg off!

I think you just described the pitch meeting for Lower Decks

Yeah but now imagine it as a drama. Add in a 'anyone can die' rule ala Game of Thrones and I am on board.

I want a true sequel to DS9 that actually deals with the ramifications and aftermath of the Dominion War in a dramatic fashion. Much as I love Lower Decks, it's a comedy first and a drama second. Picard makes me want to stab someone's fingers off because the writing is everything wrong with modern film.

Just someone do what was done with Strange New Worlds and do it with the post-TNG period. It doesn't have to be bloody perfect but I don't believe for a second anyone really wants to just keep writing pre-TOS (for what reason even?) and a very long and very bad rendition of Insurrection.

And how about a Star Wars show that's actually completely unconnected in every way shape and form from the Galactic Civil War Saga? Take a damn risk for once in your lives. You know how these franchises made their mark on the cultural landscape? They took fething risks. Just look at Prey right over there *points* Want to know why Prey doesn't suck but practically everything else in the Predator franchise does? Because it took risks.

Alternately, just stop writing TV shows and movies in the boardroom. CEO's can barely make money without cutting costs. They're by definition the opposite of creative. Stop letting them run the creative industry from the boardroom.

For Star Trek, I just want the post-nemesis novelverse back again. It felt like real Star Trek, the setting, characters and mindset I want from Star Trek. No more movies or TV shows. No modern bleak dramas. No reimagining for “modern audiences”. Just hope, exploration, professionalism, camaraderie, and wonder.

Star Wars works well enough on TV, especially when it doesn’t have any movie characters involved. Movie Saga Star Wars is dead.

I want a Trek show that rotates 4-6 episodes on a specific ship, then moves on to a different one. I find it laughable that the Enterprise is literally the only ship dealing with anything substantive...

I'd like a Star Wars show (or movie<s&gt set during the Galactic Civil War, with NONE of the established characters involved. Nor should any planet (especially Tatoonine!) Already shown/visited be used.
100% new characters, be they good guys or bad guys. 100% new places.
At the most those established characters/places/events should be referenced in conversation. But never seen. Not even a cameo.
Why? Because it's a GALACTIC CIVIL WAR. There's fighting & stories happening all over the place.

The Mandolorian was doing this. And then they had to go & actually bring in Luke, Fett, Ahsoka, Tatoonine... ("sigh")


As for Star Trek?
● NO TIME TRAVEL! None.
● I'd also like to see a show where the usual bridge crew/major important personal all go on the typical dangerous Away Mission (you know, the ones where those in charge of a ship full of trained underlings should say "I've got people for this....") - AND GET KILLED.
Killed dead & not coming back dead.
Keep it a secret during production & hit the viewers with this change about 5 episodes in....
Surprise! These people are NOT the stars if the series.

I doubt I'll ever see either of these. Not in SW/ST.

Tatooine - This series explores the scarcely seen or explored world of Tatooine, birth place of Darth Vader. The show would feature a lot of characters from the Original Trilogy in cameos and full roles, but everyone who was bad would be good now, as main characters can't be bad in Disney shows.

Reva: A Skywalker Story - Set after her heel-turn to the light side, ex-Inquisitor Reva begins to learn more about the old Jedi order, and models herself on what Anakin once was, rather than what he became, eventually taking the name Reva Skywalker.

Skywalker: A Skywalker Story - Set after the events of Rise of Skywalker, we see Rey Skywalker joining up with a now-older Reva Skywalker to start the Skywalker Academy of Skywalkers (a new name for Jedi). A running gag will be Finn trying to tell Rey something really important each episode, but somehow never getting around to it. Baby Yoda will be in this for some reason.

I'm like to see an anthology show, for either franchise, I really liked the "From a certain point of view" books, so something like a live action Visions would be fun, short stories connected to the setting but without all the baggage of the past 40 or 50 years

ccs wrote:
I'd like a Star Wars show (or movie<s&gt set during the Galactic Civil War, with NONE of the established characters involved. Nor should any planet (especially Tatoonine!) Already shown/visited be used.
100% new characters, be they good guys or bad guys. 100% new places.
At the most those established characters/places/events should be referenced in conversation. But never seen. Not even a cameo.
Why? Because it's a GALACTIC CIVIL WAR. There's fighting & stories happening all over the place.

The Mandolorian was doing this. And then they had to go & actually bring in Luke, Fett, Ahsoka, Tatoonine... ("sigh")


As for Star Trek?
● NO TIME TRAVEL! None.
● I'd also like to see a show where the usual bridge crew/major important personal all go on the typical dangerous Away Mission (you know, the ones where those in charge of a ship full of trained underlings should say "I've got people for this....") - AND GET KILLED.
Killed dead & not coming back dead.
Keep it a secret during production & hit the viewers with this change about 5 episodes in....
Surprise! These people are NOT the stars if the series.

I doubt I'll ever see either of these. Not in SW/ST.

I really like that Star Trek idea; it’s a bit like a combination of the original Lower Decks episode / what Voyager should have been. Throwing a bunch of inexperienced, ill prepared misfits into command of a starship a long way from home is a great way to explore the ideals of the Federation, moral quandaries, the grey areas between the rules and what’s right etc. (you know, like Star Trek should!). You can’t really do that on the fully armed and operational Federation flagship!

SW? So far it’s only Book of Boba Fett that was a bit ropey, and to be honest the ropeiness has become a trope and thus somewhat overstated.

Andor is looking pretty good, and we’ve still got Ahsoka to come.

But what I hope for those shows are More Locations. Tattooine is gonna Tattooine, and always was from The Phantom Menace onwards. Show us greater variety of planets.

Trek? I honestly don’t know.

Do this. Either Law and Order, Coruscant, or Troops pretty much anywhere. How much fun could be had with the mooks, or getting a sense of Imperial justice when there aren't any Jedi involved?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
SW? So far it’s only Book of Boba Fett that was a bit ropey, and to be honest the ropeiness has become a trope and thus somewhat overstated.

Obi-wan was awful. Boba Fett was a bit more than 'ropey'.

I enjoyed Obi-Wan. Could’ve done with some trimming, but overall I was well entertained.

Book of Boba Fett just had weird pacing, and didn’t really match what I think most of us expected from a series focussing on the Galaxy’s most feared and notorious Bounty Hunter.

OK hear me out...

Star Trek: Platoon - Based on that one episode of DS9 where they meet up with a Star Fleet team fighting the ground war against the Dominion. Follows a team of Federation Troops as they go from battle to battle trying to fight a humane and ethical war. Based obviously on America (and other countries') experiences of trying to fight wars, but in a good way, in everywhere from Vietnam to Afghanistan to Ukraine.

It would also highlight the hypocrisy of Star Fleet constantly saying they're not a military organization, but a scientific and diplomatic one that occasionally needs to defend itself. Similar to post-war Japan and Germany committing to peace but having rather large armies. Japan more than Germany I think, they don't have a military, they have a Defense Force. They don't have an aircraft carrier, it's a Destroyer that happens to have some aircraft on board.

The platoon would be defined as Forward Security Officers (or some similar euphemism) rather than soldiers. They'd make full use of Federation technology/magic, stun weapons, transporters, replicators, medical care where everything short of disintegration is an outpatient procedure, that make it possible to wage war where no one has to be killed. And what does that do to you? Especially when the other guys are not playing by those rules.

Base them on a Federation Assault Ship (sorry, Federation Forward Security Transport) with fighters (sorry Heavy Security Shuttles) and such so you can still have space battles and other typical Trek scenes. And of course Anyone Can Die Anytime.

Honestly? Nothing for Trek. Just let it stop for a bit or if they have to do something, for god's sake make it actually new. Lower Decks brought in a new crew with connections to previous events played up for jokes rather than being vital to the plot. Discovery did the new crew but then Burnham was tied to Spock and Sarik was there, and by S2 the Enterprise was involved.
If Discovery had started in the future I think I would have liked it more. The Spore Drive would have been a new test as a replacement for Warp Drives after The Burn, Saru could have been one of the new species added to the Federation during its reconstruction efforts after the secession of most of the OG members post-Burn. You could still have those past connections like maybe making Bajor the new home of the Federation but it would be a truly clean slate.
Wars? The Old Republic. I want to see some proper Sith action.

For Star Wars I'd like a more starfighter based show about non force sensitive pilots going against the empire, trying to keep supplied maybe play a part in the 2nd Death Star battle. Pretty much distance away from the Jedi/Sith stuff and feature more fighters/bombers and other craft that's in games, books, and the x-wing minis game. Like start the heroes off in Z-95 Headhunters instead of X-wings and have them play a part in helping get the Incom people put of the Empire so they can make the prototypes of the X-wing.

I would like to see a droid uprising story where they finally deal with the status of droids in the SW Galaxy. Maybe Droid Spartacus with a heavy dose of Droid Roots.

“Your name is 2B!”

*beepbleepbobloopbeep*

“I said 2B!” *buzzzzzz*

*Droid falls over, makes comical noises*


…on second thought that’s a terrible idea. Almost as bad as the sequel trilogy.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I would like to see a droid uprising story where they finally deal with the status of droids in the SW Galaxy. Maybe Droid Spartacus with a heavy dose of Droid Roots.

“Your name is 2B!”

*beepbleepbobloopbeep*

“I said 2B!” *buzzzzzz*

*Droid falls over, makes comical noises*


…on second thought that’s a terrible idea. Almost as bad as the sequel trilogy.

There’s even a route into it. Not necessarily a good route….but a route.

We know Lando’s Droid L3-37 was all about Droid Liberation, and at least part of her programming was uploaded into the Falcon.

Only takes an Astromech hooked in to discover whatever of L3-37 is in there, and be persuaded. Boom, her Droid Uprising begins afresh.

But if it’s Star Wars, it has to be a crap take.

Human Rebellion: the heart of the story.

Human Resistance: tragic and attempted inspiring

Droid Resistance. Lol, when the audience is done laughing at her, plug that SJW’s brain into the misery generator.

I guess it continues the trend…

SW: Darth Vader tortures Leia. Scene is sinister.

ESB: Darth Vader tortures Han Solo (also, Leia and Chewy offscreen). Scene adds sense of despair and urgency.

ROTJ: Jabba’s droids torture droids. Played for laughs.

Droids aren't sentient.

*Frowns in Picard*

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Droids aren't sentient.

The first movie, Star Wars, introduces us to the universe through two droids presented as characters. The film expects us to care about their fates. They have thoughts and feelings and even a bit of an arc. The movie only works if we accept them as people. Property, yes, but also people.

PS: it’s a common confusion, but “sapient” is the more accurate term.

A Star Wars war story tv show, following a unit though their battles

but it's a realistic war series so characters can and will die, and sometimes they'll die with their story threads unresolved

Film it UK soap opera fashion with scripts revealed week to week so none of the actors really know whats going on

and randomly check whether they live or die or are seriously injured each week, higher chance if they're new and inexperienced, lower if they're veterans, and even lower (but not nil) if they're away on leave

maybe give the writers one or two sacrifice cards where they can shift a death from one main cast member to another (but it would need to be another major cast member, not space dave who only showed up last week)

and no existing members of star wars street except by occasional mention

I'd welcome a Starwars series that doesn't follow someone in the rebellion, the Imperium nor any combatant.

Perhaps a political series set on a world that we've perhaps not seen with a rich tapestry of alien races, both native and those visiting (yay huge CGI and make-up budget).


What I'd love to see is the transitional period from Republic through the steady slide into the Empire and how it actually changes lives for those involved. Both from the perspective of those in office who perhaps lose their jobs and lives through the political and structural upheaval; through to those who perhaps grow up with the new order of rule.
Seeing a generational and social change that the Empire brings. A way to show its more subtle evils and dark side. Without guns or lightsabres or battles.

I feel its an area that is underdeveloped. We all know the Empire and Rebels fight each other constantly; we all know they take casualties and that the Empire is really nasty against their enemies. However I want to see the other side; how life under the Emperor's rule changes life for others.

Bad Batch is doing quite a bit of that. Hopefully we see a lot more in S2.

Star Wars: I would love a gritty serialized story in the vein of RDM's Battlestar Galactica. Something with a lot of character building, the occasional setpiece and an oppressive atmosphere. Alphabet Squadron would be my first choice, but you could really have it follow anybody during the rebellion era - and I imagine Andor is going to at least have some shades of what I'm looking for - but it'd be nice if it ran a story across like five or six seasons.

Rogue Squadron would also be interesting, but it has so many fighter pilot set pieces I think the adaptation would have to be animated to have any hope of keeping on budget. You could change a few locations here and there and basically have it fit into cannon no problem - or you could swap out Wedge for Poe and have it be a post-RoS story without changing much else at all.


Trek: My ideal show is one they can't possibly do because of Picard, but RedLetterMedia made a video pitch for a fantastic sounding show called Star Trek: Galaxy that I would have loved to see.

I do love the idea of a show with a handful of episodes dedicated to different ships - it'd be an interesting way to have stakes in your story, where anyone could die becuase they'd otherwise only be around for two or three episodes, sometimes the ship blows up at the end but serves a greater purpose, maybe the last set of episodes the ship is destroyed early and the narrative shifts to the Romulans or something. I dunno, it sounds kinda experimental but I'd be on board for at least a season.