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2022/09/08 19:20:23
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
The bottom right corner roughly translates to "Come and try our new Game Color and Xpress Color paints by Angel Giraldez and Juan Hidalgo". In the comments section Juan made the following reply to a question:
Ian Stubbington wrote: ooh ooh Vallejo getting on the Contrast/Speedpaint Bandwagon ?
Juan Hidalgo wrote:Oh yeah and I took part in the development.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/09/08 20:03:10
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
2022/09/08 21:23:18
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
It would be nice to somehow split the difference between Scale 75's Instacolor and Contrast. Instacolor is the only one that actually shades well but are watery as hell and difficult to control. Speedpaint controls decently but just makes everything THAT COLOR so you still need more highlighting steps.
2022/09/08 23:03:10
Subject: Re:Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
lordsnake1988 wrote:Hopefully not the speed paint bandwagon. Because i don't like the reactivation issues xD
Juan Hidalgo wrote:No, we did our job well
He's also fixed the reactivation problems with Speedpaints...
Spoiler:
... with Contrast Medium
Spoiler:
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/09/09 04:42:51
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
If Juan is on board, that's interesting, guy really knows his stuff when it comes to contrast and I've learned a lot from his videos.
Tips like starting from mid-grey undercoat + contrast for darker models has been a gamechanger, gives a really amazing dark shading + medium-dark base to then build up with a highlight or two for great results.
I've been using that more and more as the lighter undercoats give too much stark shading for a traditional 'build up from dark' process to work. It's a good middle ground between traditional and contrast method, I find.
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2022/09/09 07:45:12
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
Vallejo entering the game? Wow, took them long enough! Really intrigued.
Also, the same ad as Angel Giraldez introducing new Vallejo Game Colours. I'm really intrigued about them as well. From teases on Angel's facebook and twitter it seems they changed the formula. Hope the colours stayed the same.
2022/09/09 08:09:51
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
I'll be picking up a few of these when they are released, Juan is definitely my favourite hobby content producer, I love what he does with Contrast paints. My own techniques have improved noticeably since I started watching his videos.
I'm also a hater of the blue
2022/09/09 08:41:32
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
Juan really knows his stuff when it comes to Contrast paints and I would say I have learned more about their application/strengths/weaknesses from him than anyone else.
The only downside is I guess he won't be using Citadel Contrast much in his videos when these get released...
"Dig in and wait for Winter"
2022/09/09 09:48:51
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
lord_blackfang wrote: I just put 8 Green Stuff World dipping inks in my cart... I'm not taking them out.
I just tested two, they are pretty decent.
I've seen the GSW inks, they look good but I'd rather wait and see what Vallejo's are like. I have trust in Juan to help them make a great product.
I'm still going to wait for the reviews first of course, I would have been really disappointed if I had pre-ordered The Army Painter or Scale75's versions.
2022/09/09 17:19:04
Subject: Re:Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
Rocco Raspanti wrote:Very interesting! I might get some to try. I still find it a little funny that Vallejo too, for marketing reasons I guess, advertise this new product as something that recalls speed painting while a slow, pro painter will probably get the most out of it (just as contrasts)
Juan Hidalgo wrote:I KNOW!
Trust me I agree with you, I was asked for suggestions about the name and my feedback was to AVOID anything that implies speed, I had a long conversation about that but alas I'm just a tester and my input in that regard is not big at all.
So Juan was just a tester (and IMHO the best tester they could ask for) but did not contribute to the development beyond that
Juam Hidalgo wrote:Review next week, as soon as I get back from the freaks. That's where I will be getting the full set with the official bottles... Probably Tuesday or Wednesday, again, literally as soon a si can record it and edit it and light speed
Can't wait and I'll get it up in the OP as soon as I see it. Hopefully Juan's new baby lets him get it up quickly...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/09/10 06:57:36
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
I found this image on their official Instagram. The new logo are cool. They also said that they are going to have some videos done during the presentations of the new paints, for both the new Xpress Colors and the revamped Game Colors.
vanvakaris wrote: I found this image on their official Instagram. The new logo are cool. They also said that they are going to have some videos done during the presentations of the new paints, for both the new Xpress Colors and the revamped Game Colors.
And can be found on their Facebook page along with the following pics:
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/09/10 18:02:53
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
First ever miniature painted EXCLUSIVELY using @vallejocolors XPRESS COLOR
NO HIGHLIGHTS APPLIED, just Xpress Color applied over white primer and some white to clean up and paint the eye.
Even though this was painted by a master like Juan Hidalgo, these paints could be a real game changer!
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/09/11 01:03:53
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
I think a big question is will Vallejo sell the medium by itself, and how good will it be?
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
2022/09/11 01:41:47
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
Tannhauser42 wrote: I think a big question is will Vallejo sell the medium by itself, and how good will it be?
I don't see a reason why they wouldn't sell the medium by itself as they already sell mediums. I can go to Hobby Lobby and buy Thinner Medium, Glaze Medium, Metal Medium and Drying Retarder Medium from Vallejo (and they only carry a fraction of the Model Color line).
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/09/11 07:13:51
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
Flinty wrote: Hopefully they will bring their usual offering. Better than army painter and cheaper than Citadel
Those are not high bars
It actually is a high bar, and you know your statement is pretty dishonest. GW is the only company in this hobby that can sell you garbage for two to three times the asking price of a similar product from other competitors and people will still "Well Acktchyually" to defend it because of "Warhammer".
2022/09/11 18:16:41
Subject: Xpress Color - Vallejo entering the Contrast/Speedpaints game?
Flinty wrote: Hopefully they will bring their usual offering. Better than army painter and cheaper than Citadel
Those are not high bars
It actually is a high bar, and you know your statement is pretty dishonest. GW is the only company in this hobby that can sell you garbage for two to three times the asking price of a similar product from other competitors and people will still "Well Acktchyually" to defend it because of "Warhammer".
So you're saying that GW is overpriced but it's difficult to be cheaper than GW?
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Even though this was painted by a master like Juan Hidalgo, these paints could be a real game changer!
