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The Land of the Rising Sun

 Overread wrote:

By all means being angry at inflated costs and a failure on shipping is understandable; but some just go to another level. I think also some feel that the more they threaten a firm the more likely the heartless, soulless firm is going to respond and do what they want.


In my experience at both sides of the service counter I've come to realize that with some companies trying to work to solve an issue doesn't work, and only when you raise hell the company does respond. I've been threatened by customers for following the instructions laid down by the higher ups only to have those same managers overule me, and incidentally showing all other clients that only if you scream loud enough the company will start moving.

M.

Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.

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Does Catalyst still have more IP / product lines than employees?
   
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Texas

 Miguelsan wrote:
 Overread wrote:

By all means being angry at inflated costs and a failure on shipping is understandable; but some just go to another level. I think also some feel that the more they threaten a firm the more likely the heartless, soulless firm is going to respond and do what they want.


In my experience at both sides of the service counter I've come to realize that with some companies trying to work to solve an issue doesn't work, and only when you raise hell the company does respond. I've been threatened by customers for following the instructions laid down by the higher ups only to have those same managers overule me, and incidentally showing all other clients that only if you scream loud enough the company will start moving.

M.


This. I used to work for West Marine many years ago, and the price was the price.

Period.

Until the customer called the DM or corporate and complained, then the price was 10-50% less than the price...

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See my fear wasn't that Catalyst was the problem, but that international shippers were getting in on the same price gouging racket that we are seeing with groceries and housing.

I think Catalyst is aware that we are the goose that lays the golden egg.

This isn't to say that I won't mind if GW got burned badly. They are definitely in price gouging territory with their msrp.

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My main fear was that Catalyst had just screwed up massively through incompetence, and that their fulfilment partner had taken them for a massive ride. Their business model appears to be held together with spit, string and good fortune…

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 Flinty wrote:
My main fear was that Catalyst had just screwed up massively through incompetence, and that their fulfilment partner had taken them for a massive ride. Their business model appears to be held together with spit, string and good fortune…

They used QML for the Clan Invasion Kickstarter as well, so they were familiar with the company.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 Flinty wrote:
My main fear was that Catalyst had just screwed up massively through incompetence, and that their fulfilment partner had taken them for a massive ride. Their business model appears to be held together with spit, string and good fortune…



Yup, the name of the KS is mercenaries so you just need to add duct tape to be correct. Plus they are in the Periphery too boot.

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They should have zeroed everybody's shipping costs for now, while they sort out the correct ones. this is just temporary, it does not mean that all shipping costs have been waived. they just don;t want the inaccurate stuff staying there while they sort out the correct info.

anyone who has already paid the inaccurate amount should submit for refund of the shipping costs through backerkit

they have also extended the deadline for confirming addresses
   
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Agree on zeroing. There are people who don't pay attention to communicate and will pay the high cost by mistake. They will then need to process refunds for them later. It's going to make it more complicated for them.

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It is going to be a great time! While waiting, why not check out those subreddits? They are great communities!

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Project Update #86 wrote:Hey there, backers!

To follow-up on last week’s update, QML is currently working their way through our list and making adjustments to shipping prices that will correct both the error with the Savannah BattleMat and the packing fees. This recalculation could take a couple of weeks, and we will be doing everything in our power to help expedite this process on our end.

For any backers who have already charged their cards based on what they saw in BackerKit, please rest assured that we will be refunding the remaining amount after we have posted the correct shipping charges. We are also looking further into the complexity of taxes and VATs to certain areas to double check that everything is correct, thank you backers for pointing us in that direction.

Thank you backers for any and all feedback, it truly does help us do right by you.
   
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QML is giving them a new list on Friday. Depending on the time we may not hear any news until Monday. Rem says that's a lot sooner than she thought it would be.

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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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That's actually pretty impressive with how many backers and items there are. Sounds like we will know the actual shipping costs pretty soon. Glad to hear it.

 
   
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I don’t want BattleTech to burn. I don’t even want CGL to fail. I’m disappointed they apparently did not learn much from Clan Invasion, and are still a clown show that happens to be the current license holder for one of my favorite games. I’ve been playing off and on since the 80s, and will probably still do so. Despite all the hot air online about a BattleTech renaissance, the local scene is still mostly dead.

That said, I am glad I made an oath to the Dark Gods I would never directly support CGL again after Clan Invasion, and I’ve stuck with it. Sure, I will pay more at retail, miss some exclusives, or get things later than others. That said, CGL will still likely get far less out of me over time, as I simply won’t be buying as much, and never from them.

Being honest, I bet there are a lot of you out there like me - I way overspent on Clan Invasion, and have still never even used most of the stuff. So I think I’ll be just fine with the occasional pickup from the local or online game store. And I’m okay with not being a direct investor in BattleTech’s future. That’s the fallout from Clan Invasion for me. I hope they get this sorted, and everyone gets their stuff soon.

   
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I feel like they get a tad overly ambitious with their kickstarters. If they do another one after this I hope they scale it down a bit.

I am annoyed with CGL but that has more to do with Leviathans than this mercs kickstarter.

 
   
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Florence, KY

I don't see the $50,000 goal they set for the Mercenaries Kickstarter as being 'overly ambitious'. They were prepared for the Kickstarter to do at least the $2.5 million of the Clan Invasion Kickstarter but they weren't expecting the $7.5 million ($12 million after the pledge manager) and that led them to add a few ForcePacks which weren't quite ready to go.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
I don't see the $50,000 goal they set for the Mercenaries Kickstarter as being 'overly ambitious'. They were prepared for the Kickstarter to do at least the $2.5 million of the Clan Invasion Kickstarter but they weren't expecting the $7.5 million ($12 million after the pledge manager) and that led them to add a few ForcePacks which weren't quite ready to go.


Let’s be realistic here - in no way, shape or form was 50K going to get this rolling. Surely you realize a lot of companies seriously lowball funding things on kickstarter, so they can blather ‘funded in x minutes, hour, one day’ etc.! on the campaign page. That was an utterly meaningless ‘goal’, and has zip to do with their expectations for a total. It’s just more propaganda.
   
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Removed - rule #1 please

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Tuesday Newsday is back up. Definitely worth a watch just for the artwork preview starting at about the 30-minute mark.



'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Florence, KY

This is interesting...




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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Well huh, is that purple and red PVC?

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Purple? Are those Marik Locusts?

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 NH Gunsmith wrote:
Well huh, is that purple and red PVC?

And bright blue in the start of the second video. No idea what they're for.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Didn't they preview/proof-of-concept some kind of "big map of space" board game recently that used coloured 'mechs as game tokens?
   
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 Altruizine wrote:
Didn't they preview/proof-of-concept some kind of "big map of space" board game recently that used coloured 'mechs as game tokens?
Yes, that's right. Good catch.

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Hmmm... Resurgent Empires is the big space map board game, while it appears to still be in prototype, I'm not sure that game will come with full size 'Mech models to represent the armies. And a purple Locust wouldn't really make a lot of sense over the Phoenix Hawk they're currently using. I think this might be something else.
   
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 frankelee wrote:
Hmmm... Resurgent Empires is the big space map board game, while it appears to still be in prototype, I'm not sure that game will come with full size 'Mech models to represent the armies. And a purple Locust wouldn't really make a lot of sense over the Phoenix Hawk they're currently using. I think this might be something else.

They could be using the Locust as a Light unit and have different colors to designate each House (e.g., a blue Locust for a Light unit from House Steiner). However I agree that the minis look too large for Resurgent Empires, especially with the size of the map (seen HERE)

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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I linked picture of the game a few pages ago, there were no Locusts in the pics for any faction.

Although that doesn't mean that won't be/hasn't changed.

Or, maybe the game is expanding to include different pieces for different levels of forces being used.



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There were no Lights of any sort in the pictures, iirc. And the Locust would be a good selection for 'generic light mech token' for obvious reasons.

Using full-sized models would offer some nice cross-compatibility and the opportunity to lure people who buy the board game into the other games.

The board would definitely get crowded that way, though (even with chits under the tokens). It also just feels like a ton of models to ship in one box, if every faction was getting multiple Light/Medium/Heavy/Assault tokens.
   
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A Risk style Battletech game with like a 100 full-scale 'Mechs would be awesome, but it is doubtful. Light units would make sense for their Command and Colors style game, but Resurgent Empires is a nation-state scale game, the prototype just features one model for each faction because you just need something to represent an a full army.
   
 
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