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If you roll a wound roll of 6s, would you get BOTH sources of mortal wounds from these rules, or just one? I would have previously said that they stacked without issue, but I've heard someone take issue with the phrase 'in addition to normal damage' from the Sacristans bit, where the stratagem says 'instead of normal damage'.
I'd probably argue that they both key off the wound roll so you'd get both, but want to get some alternative takes! Thanks in advance.

Calculated Targeting:
Use this Stratagem in your Shooting phase, when a QUESTOR MECHANICUS model from your army is selected to shoot. Until the end of the phase, each time that model makes a ranged attack, on an unmodified wound roll of 6, that attack inflicts a number of mortal wounds on the target equal to the Damage characteristic of that attack, and the attack sequence ends. If that model is an ARMIGER-CLASS model, this Stratagem costs 2CP; if that model is a QUESTORIS-CLASS model, this Stratagem costs 3CP; otherwise, it costs 4CP.

Blessed by the Sacristans
Each time this WARLORD makes a ranged attack, on an unmodified wound roll of 6 that attack inflicts 1 mortal wound on the target in addition to the normal damage (to a maximum of 6 mortal wounds per unit per phase).

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I would rule they both apply on a Wound Roll of 6. Blessed by the Sacristans adds a Mortal Wound to the normal damage while Calculated Targeting changes the normal damage into Mortal Wounds. There is no contradiction since the additional Mortal Wound is not a change to the normal damage.
   
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Agreed. For whatever reason hits on a roll of 6 dont benefit from multiple rules, only the original one, but this is not true for wound rolls of 6. You can stack as many rules as you can on top of each other when it comes to wound rolls of 6.
   
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It depends on which way you sequence the mw as calculated targeting ends the sequence

In practice this means shooter applies normal damage then shooter chooses to apply both sets of mw or just the stratagem mw

Most of the time applying all is the best answer although occasionally it might not be if you wanted the target alive on 1w


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 p5freak wrote:
Agreed. For whatever reason hits on a roll of 6 dont benefit from multiple rules, only the original one, but this is not true for wound rolls of 6. You can stack as many rules as you can on top of each other when it comes to wound rolls of 6.


That is incorrect

Additional hits on role of a 6 stack e.g. the sisters stratagem wade into the foe stacks with the sacred right the passion

Any derivation of counts as 2 hits does not stack because they replace the number not add to it

Just as two scores an additional wound on a 6 would stack but two auto wounds on a 6 would not

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