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I'm not involved in T9A. Is it still going?
There has been some discussion of what the impact The Old World will have on the KoW community and I am curious about what similar discussion in the T9A community looks like.
I would be equally curious regarding Oldhammer and WAP.

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T9A is still going although it appears rather stagnant to me and left to a lot of diehards. I still enjoy their forums quite a bit.

There is a lot of discussion about The Old World, some are hostile and see it as a threat, others feel like T9A will be fine as many will play the Old World for fun but the 9th age for tournaments.
   
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There are two 9th Age communities.

Those who stopped at 1.1 and those who went all in for the modern post-Warhammer game.

Both are isolated.

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The "officialdom" of Warhammer: The Old World will pull back all but the most ardent die-hards from the fractured branches of the fantasy gaming community. Now how significant that will be? That remains to be seen, but I can easily see T9A suffering more than most when it happens.

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hard to tell, I lost contact with the local T9A groups after they went for closed groups over public ones and just see the tournament announcements from time to time

so there is a good chance that Old World will take the place as the go-to tournament system here, but this also depends on how long it will take until it is released and how T9A is changing

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 Just Tony wrote:
The "officialdom" of Warhammer: The Old World will pull back all but the most ardent die-hards from the fractured branches of the fantasy gaming community. Now how significant that will be? That remains to be seen, but I can easily see T9A suffering more than most when it happens.

While I can see that being the case for the various fan made rules or Oldhammer, I'm not sure that applies to the rest of fantasy wargaming.
Games from other companies are "official' too.
Just in KoW there is a significant portion of the player that feel that they have found a better game and company from Mantic. They don't intend to go back to GW, but I wouldn't describe them as "ardent die-hards" either. They were just "forced" to find out that there are other fantasy wargames on offer and like what they found.

Not to mention that it's been long enough that there are players who have been playing a fantasy wargame for a significant of time (long enough to get invested, have seen at least one edition change and collect several armies),but never played "official" WHFB.

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I'd have thought that the 40k community is a reasonable comparison. There are a fair few people who play older editions of 40k and swear that the rules they prefer are vastly superior (rightly or wrongly, it doesn't matter).
I expect plenty of WFB fans will be turned off by the new rules, lore, writing, and units (Bear cavalry! Outrageous!), while the majority will either just be happy to have new toys & rules to play with or really like whatever new direction they go in.
   
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As an 8th player for WFB I will look into The Old World and if my group likes it we will hop over, otherwise we have 8th to keep playing.

Also I was a bit interested in Kings of War, mostly the idea of not needing to remove models so you can build dioramas instead. I was interested in splitting a box, putting it on the appropriate base size with half the models and making a cool diorama instead. But the rulebook states you need at least 75% of the actual unit represented so that turned me off. I do see KOW sticking around though as it is supported by a company who makes models for it and I'm sure the rules are well done.
   
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KoW nowhere says you need 75% of the models, it is just recommended and most of the players go with 50%+1 as minimum but rule of cool being most important

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It says that in the rulebook somewhere. Tried to find a local community to double check but couldn't find one so I abandoned that thought. I'll source the 75% thing when I get home.
   
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the part you refer to is this:
You might even end up with a little more or less than the correct number of models on the multi-base – this is fine, but it must be reasonably close to the correct amount, so that there is no chance of misleading your opponents in regard to the real size of the unit.
Below you will find a chart listing the base sizes for all the units as well as the ‘preferred model count’ (PMC), which is the amount of models you should aim to use for your multi-based units to maintain the spectacle of a big battle. Sometimes, the practicalities of model size and position will make this more difficult, or not possible, but in essence, you should plan to have 75% or more of the models being represented on the base.

75% is a suggestion but less is fine, specially for dioramas or if it is not possible otherwise

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So officially you need, like I stated, 75%. Community conventions may differ which I wouldn't know about till I find a local community but right now my 8th ed community is getting bigger than whatever the KOW community may be in my area.
   
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as I said, 75% are recommended not a "need", it is even there in the text that is perfectly fine to use less than the recommended amount for dioramas

and if 8th is the game in your area it does not matter as there you need the full amount of models anyway

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 Gangland wrote:
As an 8th player for WFB I will look into The Old World and if my group likes it we will hop over, otherwise we have 8th to keep playing.

Also I was a bit interested in Kings of War, mostly the idea of not needing to remove models so you can build dioramas instead. I was interested in splitting a box, putting it on the appropriate base size with half the models and making a cool diorama instead. But the rulebook states you need at least 75% of the actual unit represented so that turned me off. I do see KOW sticking around though as it is supported by a company who makes models for it and I'm sure the rules are well done.


Units as diorama can look really excellent but you lose the flexibility of individual basing. When I play Warhammer sieges, I can line up my troops one wide on a wall. That's impossible for KOW.
   
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 kodos wrote:
and if 8th is the game in your area it does not matter as there you need the full amount of models anyway

Reread my original post in the thread, mostly the part concerning KOW.

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 Gangland wrote:
As an 8th player for WFB I will look into The Old World and if my group likes it we will hop over, otherwise we have 8th to keep playing.

Also I was a bit interested in Kings of War, mostly the idea of not needing to remove models so you can build dioramas instead. I was interested in splitting a box, putting it on the appropriate base size with half the models and making a cool diorama instead. But the rulebook states you need at least 75% of the actual unit represented so that turned me off. I do see KOW sticking around though as it is supported by a company who makes models for it and I'm sure the rules are well done.


Units as diorama can look really excellent but you lose the flexibility of individual basing. When I play Warhammer sieges, I can line up my troops one wide on a wall. That's impossible for KOW.

Wasn't my concern with the system. Just making a cool diorama army I could play games with seemed fun. Also lost interest when I saw shoes on the halfling army.
   
 
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