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Melbourne, FL


++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [97 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Elites

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Craftworld Selection: Ulthwe: Foresight of the Damned

Detachment Command Cost

Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen

+ HQ +

Avatar of Khaine [14 PL, 280pts]

Farseer [5 PL, 105pts]: 4. Executioner, 6. Mind War, Witchblade

Farseer [5 PL, -2CP, 105pts]: 1. Fateful Divergence, 2. Doom, 3. Fortune, Stratagem: Treasures of the Aeldari, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Ulthwe: Fate Reader, Warlord, Witchblade
. The Ghosthelm of Alishazier

Farseer [5 PL, 105pts]: 1. Guide, 5. Will of Asuryan, Witchblade

+ Elites +

Dire Avengers [7 PL, 155pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shredding Fire, Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults

Dire Avengers [6 PL, 130pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shuriken Pistol & Power Glaive

Dire Avengers [6 PL, 130pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shuriken Pistol & Power Glaive

Fire Dragons [6 PL, 130pts]
. 4x Fire Dragon: 4x Dragon Fusion Gun
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Firepike

Howling Banshees [5 PL, 110pts]
. 4x Howling Banshee: 4x Banshee Blade, 4x Shuriken Pistol
. Howling Banshee Exarch: Mirrorswords, Piercing Strikes

+ Heavy Support +

Falcon [9 PL, 160pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon

Falcon [9 PL, 160pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Wave Serpent [8 PL, 165pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Starcannon

Wave Serpent [8 PL, 165pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Aeldari Missile Launcher

+ Fortification +

Webway Gate [4 PL, 100pts]

++ Total: [97 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++

Simple enough concept, put all 3 farseers and 2 Dire Avenger squads in WavSerpents, and the Banshees and Dragons in the Falcons. Start with just 2 Waveserpents and the Webway on the table. Put the Webway very close to an objective if possible. Avatar, Dire Avengers with Shredding Fire, and both Falcons are in reserve.

Turn 1 allows 3 rerolls of Fate Dice as all 3 Farseers are on the table, the two falcons can come down turn 1 and the Avatar and Avenger squad continues to threaten the mid board with a possible turn 2 entry. Farseers will score with Psychic Interegation, and the Avengers Raise banners or Retrieve Data while shooting.....turn three use 2 Fate dice to guarantee a charge with the Avatar if he hasn't already been brought in......ect.

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So realy the big question is, do I keep it Ulthwe, or do I go custom with Webway Warriors( units that come in from reserve get exploding 6s to hit) and Mobile Fighters (units that disembark a transport get +1 to wound that turn)?

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What's the point of the gate? (Your perspective), whats the advantage you are getting over strategic reserves is it worth 100pts?

I can see an idea that I don't think works, which is to phantasm your waveserpents into reserves, and then drop them turn 2, but as far as I know you can't disembark the units because I don't recall any rules on the serpents or reserves that let you disembark. (unless your are a falcon or drop pod) So that means you got 2 serpents on the table getting a lot of attention. But I guess you got 2 serpents and the option to drop both falcons. If you did that I would have more than scatter lasers on the falcons.

What's played the most in your local meta? I ask because scatter lasers on falcons is curious. And the starcannon on the wave serpent is... mediocre

Since this is a tournament, lets say you are facing Tau Triptide and I know to stay 10+ inches past the 6" of the center of your webway gate. (meaning a charge isn't possible with the avatar). What is your strategy? (I play chaos marines, tau and eldar, so this could be a very entertaining tactics conversation).


If you are running Farseers on foot, replace one with Eldrad, and add a 2 warlock seer council. Farseers are expensive. I also am not seeing how you captialize on mindwar.... you have nothing else modifying leadership, so its not going to do much work. You are missing out on fun stuff like Jinx + doom, and farseer warp stuff + power and Quicken.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2023/02/10 17:16:18


 
   
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Melbourne, FL

So, I totaly forgot to come back and address the questions that were posted, but effectively it came down to a simple plan. Turn 1 is just 2 Waveserpents and a webway gate on the table, drop falcons in corners and get Engage on all fronts, and the webway in the center gives me center table control as most players won't come near it letting me run corners and shoot from further back. Turn 2 sees the farseers rerolling for Charge dice and giving either the Avatar a guaranteed 12" charge from the center of the table or or the shining spears a charge with reroll as they come out next to the Avatar.

Mind War was dropped and a farseer was upgraded to Eldrad.

As for the Scatter Lasers, my local meta loves to use light cheap infantry to hold back objectives (pox Walkers, Jackels. Ect) many times I can get split fire and knock a few off while the Pulse Laser over kills the other target, the star Canon was taken as a cheap light vehicle killing weapon as the fire dragons and shining spears handle the heavier stuff till the Avatar gets into range


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The final list was such.....
++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [99 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Elites

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Craftworld Selection: Ulthwe: Foresight of the Damned

Detachment Command Cost

Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen

+ Stratagems +

Stratagem: Relics of the Shrines [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Avatar of Khaine [14 PL, 280pts]

Eldrad Ulthran [8 PL, -1CP, 145pts]: 1. Fateful Divergence, 1. Guide, 2. Doom, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Ulthwe: Fate Reader, Warlord

Farseer [5 PL, 105pts]: 3. Fortune, 4. Executioner, Witchblade

Farseer [5 PL, 105pts]: 3. Fortune, 4. Executioner, Witchblade

+ Elites +

Dire Avengers [7 PL, 155pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shredding Fire, Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults

Dire Avengers [6 PL, 135pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 9x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Shimmershield & Power Glaive

Fire Dragons [6 PL, 120pts]
. 4x Fire Dragon: 4x Dragon Fusion Gun
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Dragon Fusion Gun

Howling Banshees [5 PL, 110pts]
. 4x Howling Banshee: 4x Banshee Blade, 4x Shuriken Pistol
. Howling Banshee Exarch: Cronescream (Shrine Relic), Mirrorswords, Piercing Strikes

+ Fast Attack +

Shining Spears [5 PL, 115pts]
. 2x Shining Spear: 2x Laser Lance, 2x Twin Shuriken Catapult
. Shining Spear Exarch: Khaine's Lance (Shrine Relic), Shuriken Cannon, Star Lance

+ Heavy Support +

Falcon [9 PL, 150pts]: Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon

Falcon [9 PL, 150pts]: Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Wave Serpent [8 PL, 165pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Starcannon

Wave Serpent [8 PL, 165pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Aeldari Missile Launcher

+ Fortification +

Webway Gate [4 PL, 100pts]

++ Total: [99 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++

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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/04/12 04:12:47


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Livermore, Ca

I had an idea, why not run 7 man dire avenger squads, so you can stick a 5 man banshee or fire dragon in a serpent with a dire avenger squad.

And I still think you should run a warlock unit for their added utility, over a 3rd farseer
   
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I would do multiple squads In a wave Serpent, but the farseers ride in them, and I didn't have enough points, I also stayed with the 3rd farseer for the fate reroll to fish for charge 6s, and as a backup source of fortune and executioner.......

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how did the list do?
   
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List did really well, went undefeated in a 1 day RTT at the LFGS.
First game was against Sisters and the webway kept them away from the center of the table shutting down their scoring, and they had no solid counter for the Avatar clearing the back field.
Turn 2 was Chaos Knights, tabled them on round 4, Avatar from the middle webway was again an edge the player had no counter for.
Turn 3 was against world eaters (with out angron) Phantasm let me Redeploy and turn it into a hammer and anvil game leaning into my shooting, the Avatar and spears cleaned up one side of rhe board, however his secondaries allowed him to score even while losing and despite me tabling him he had me 67 to 63, I only beat him because of the paint score for Battle Ready......

3 farseers were clutch in getting me saves and charge dice from the Fate rolls as well as keeping mortals go8ng and Warp Rituals.....

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