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Space Marines
Assault Intercessors
Bladeguard Veterans
Eradicators
Primaris Chaplain On Bike
Primaris Outriders
Primaris Techmarine
Invader ATV
Firestrike Turret
Hammerfall Bunker
Gladiator (Three Variants)
Storm Speeder (Three Variants)
Primaris Captain With MC Heavy Bolt Rifle
Heavy Intercessors
Gravis Captain
Primaris Ancient
Spartan
Kratos
Contemptor Dreadnought
18 Kits

Plus, still in a box set:
Primaris Lt. With Shield
Primaris Captain With Shield
Bladgeuard Ancient
Judicar
Primaris Chaplain
5 Kits

Plus, subfactions:
Azrael
Hounds Of Morkai
Helbrecht
Grimaldus
Emperor's Champion
Marshal
Castellan
Sword Brethren
Crusader Squad
Crowe
10 Kits

Custodes
Blade Champion
1 Kit

Ad Mech
Skitarii Marshal
Techno Archaeologist
2 Kits

Imperial Knights
None

Imperial Guard
Gaunt's Ghosts
Cadian Shock Troops
Krieg Veterans
Ursula Creed
Sentinel (Two Variants)
Command Squad
Field Ordinance Batteries
Karskin
Castellan
Rough Riders
Rogal Dorn Tank
Lord Solar
Primaris Psyker
13 Kits

Sisters Of Battle
Morvenn Vahl
Palatine
Aestred Thurga And Agathae Dolan
Dogmata
Sacresants
Paragon Warsuits
Castigator
Noviates
8 Kits

CSM
Chosen
Warpsmith
Daemon Prince (No Rules Yet)
Possessed
Cultists
Dark Commune
Accursed Cultists
Spartan
Contemptor Dreadnought
9 Kits

Death Guard
Lord Of Virulence
Miasmic Malignifier
2 Kits

Thousand Sons
Infernal Master
1 Kit

World Eaters
Angron
Berserkers
Lord On Juggernaut (Two Variants)
Eitherbound
Jakhals
5 Kits

Daemons
Be'Lakor
Daemon Prince (No Rules Yet, Combined Kit With CSM)
2 Kits

Chaos Knights
Abominant
Karnivore
Stalker
Brigand
4 Kits

Eldar
Autarch
Rangers
Shroud Runners
Storm Guardians
Maugan Ra
Dark Reapers
Warlocks
Shining Spears
Avatar Of Khaine
Corsairs
10 Kits

Harlequins
None

Dark Eldar
Lelith
1 Kit

Votann
Warriors
Pioneers
Iron Master
Hearthguard
Berserks
Kahl (Two Variants)
Sagitaur
Thunderkyn
Grimnyr
Einhyr Champion
Land Fortress
11 Kits

Orks
Beast Snaggas
Squighog Boys
Nob On Smasha
Zodgrod
Beastboss
Beastboss On Squigosaur (Two Variants)
Killrig (Two Variants)
Wurrboy
Painboss
Warboss In Mega Armor
Kommandos
Boys
Deffkoptas
Bossbunka
14 Kits

Necrons
Warriors (With Scarabs)
Skorpekh Lord
Skorpekh Destroyers (With Plasmacyte)
Royal Warden
Cryptothralls
Doomstalker
Reanimator
Overlord
Plasmancer
Convergence Of Dominion
Silent King
Void Dragon
Monolith
Hexmark Destroyer
Ophydian Destroyers
Flayed Ones
Chronomancer
Psychomancer
Lokhust Heavy Destroyer
19 Kits

Tau
Pathfinders
Kroot
Darkstrider
3 Kits

Nids
Parasite Of Mortex
1 Kit

GSC
Saboteur
1 Kit
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I am legitimately surprised that the Necrons have had more individual releases than Marines.

They've got less if you count stuff that's still in box sets, and of course, this ignores any subfaction releases, but still.

Edit: Here's the source I used.

Wasn't Felthius an 8th kit, that just may have seen a rerelease in 9th? Pretty sure the Plague Marine kit was 8th as well.

And there are Daemon Prince rules - we just don't know yet if they'll be changing in light of the new kit.

By Startstele, under Necrons, do you mean the Convergence of Dominion kit?

Yeah, Felthius and the Plague Marines (no matter which of the 4 kits you choose) were from 8th.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:Yeah, Felthius and the Plague Marines (no matter which of the 4 kits you choose) were from 8th.

Adjusting.

Dysartes wrote:Wasn't Felthius an 8th kit, that just may have seen a rerelease in 9th? Pretty sure the Plague Marine kit was 8th as well.

And there are Daemon Prince rules - we just don't know yet if they'll be changing in light of the new kit.

By Startstele, under Necrons, do you mean the Convergence of Dominion kit?

Yes, I do mean that.
Adjusted.

techo- archaeologist is a bit of a maybe? he was already around form the blackstone fortress set and just had his "stand alone" release happen during 9th.

also, your missing the Phobos Kill Team set, the Traitor Guardsman (and Dark Enforcer, which is a seperate 40k datasheet but same box set, so i dont know if you count that as one or two releases) the Chaos Legionaries, necron Hierotek Circle, as well as Navy Breacher Kill teams.


I can sorta see why they weren't on the list orignally, seeing as they are all kill team releases which have 40K rules, but given Krieg, the Coisars, Noviates, and the Kommandos are all counting, we might as well go all or nothing, really.

I’m at work now, so I’ll edit those in when I get home.

Thank you

 JNAProductions wrote:

I am legitimately surprised that the Necrons have had more individual releases than Marines.

I mean, you're counting from the start of 9th, and not 8th when Marines basically got an entire codex's worth of new models.

Counting things like the W+ assassin and chaos lord?

I’m counting what you can actually get-so limited releases aren’t in there, and stuff only in box sets is separate.

 JNAProductions wrote:
I’m counting what you can actually get-so limited releases aren’t in there, and stuff only in box sets is separate.

That’s fair, and probably the better metric.

It is actually rather amazing that 6 different factions had double digit unit releases in 9th Edition. Space Marines and Necrons, the release factions, are at the top but no so far ahead as you would think.

I do feel for those factions who didn't get more releases than fingers on a hand

Extra sympathy to Custodes, Thousand Sons, Drukhari, GSC, Tyranids, and the most neglected Imperial Knights and Harlequins (are we even a faction any more?).

I may have things jumbled up with 8th, but wasn't Darkstrider for Tau 9th?

And weren't the Technoarchaeologist for Admech and Primaris Psyker for Guard reboxes of previously available kits? First time as solo releases sure but I'm pretty sure they were readily available before.

Also also, not sure if the short lived Cadian upgrade sprue that got thrown in to the old Cadian box counts for anything.

Tau got a new Darkstrider, but the pathfinder's are only an upgrade sprue similar to the Chaos Legionaries one.

 JNAProductions wrote:
I am legitimately surprised that the Necrons have had more individual releases than Marines.

It's not too surprising IMO. Necrons got a major range update this edition, marines just got their normal background level of releases that happen every edition. Compare them to any faction that didn't time their every few editions update for 9th and you see the usual 5-10 to 1 ratio in favor of marines.

Yeah, I think you need to include the Subfaction stuff.

Black Templar alone got 7 kits and an upgrade pack.

Dark Angels are about to get Azrael
Grey Knights got Crowe

And among limited release models, there were another 7 models, including..
Bayard's Revenge
Tarentus
Uriel Ventris
Castus
Vitrian Messinius
Primaris Captain
Primaris Lt with shield

So that's another 15 kits throughout 9th edition... Small though many of them are, it's hard to overlook.

Also consider the Desolation Squad, Brutalis Dread, and new multi-part Lieutenant were likely planned for Space Marines 2.0 book, and those space marine box sets for each chapter were supposed to be paired along with supplements re-done. Scheduling issue has them releasing on their own, but they'll still be here before 10th.

At the very least, that's another 3 model kits for 9th edition, and who knows how many more will come in 10th.

 JNAProductions wrote:
Space Marines
Assault Intercessors
Bladeguard Veterans
Eradicators
Primaris Chaplain On Bike
Primaris Outriders
Primaris Techmarine
Invader ATV
Firestrike Turret
Hammerfall Bunker
Gladiator (Three Variants)
Storm Speeder (Three Variants)
Primaris Captain With MC Heavy Bolt Rifle
Heavy Intercessors
Gravis Captain
Primaris Ancient
15 Kits

Plus, still in a box set:
Primaris Lt. With Shield
Primaris Captain With Shield
Bladgeuard Ancient
Judicar
Primaris Chaplain
5 Kits

So nothing Firstborn, just what you'd expect to see if tried to Sister-Treatment the Marines without actually removing them from the shelves?


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Aecus Decimus wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
I am legitimately surprised that the Necrons have had more individual releases than Marines.

It's not too surprising IMO. Necrons got a major range update this edition, marines just got their normal background level of releases that happen every edition. Compare them to any faction that didn't time their every few editions update for 9th and you see the usual 5-10 to 1 ratio in favor of marines.

Its not surprising, but I'd point out that Marines didn't get their normal background level of releases. There were no First Born. They got the Range Reset/Reintroduction numbers of releases. Sisters is still getting a higher number of releases given their renewed life. IG is likely going to be getting some more soon. Most people believe Primaris were there to phase out First Born. My guess is the first born line isn't selling as well as it could/should. So put out some stuff that will naturall replace the First Born, generate sales based on both them being new and being "better". Consider Primaris an entirely new "faction" - like the split codex rumor would make them - And that list looks a whole lot different with 0 Background releases.

Rather funny definition for half the releases you have. 30/134.

tneva82 wrote:
Rather funny definition for half the releases you have. 30/134.

Yes, I exaggerated. So I decided to fact-check myself, and make public the actual numbers to the best of my ability.

I was wrong in my assumption.

 JNAProductions wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Rather funny definition for half the releases you have. 30/134.

Yes, I exaggerated. So I decided to fact-check myself, and make public the actual numbers to the best of my ability.

I was wrong in my assumption.

Bias does creep into assumptions very easily. Its human. The point has been made, we can move on if lessons have been learned. Sure it'll happen again to any and all of us. So we get the next reminder to question our assumptions.

Did the blind boxes count, I thought they come out during 9th.

Curious to see still how it’s worked out.

Apple fox wrote:
Did the blind boxes count, I thought they come out during 9th.

Curious to see still how it’s worked out.

They're re-releases and limited runs well so not included I'd imagine.

Breton wrote:
Its not surprising, but I'd point out that Marines didn't get their normal background level of releases. There were no First Born. They got the Range Reset/Reintroduction numbers of releases. Sisters is still getting a higher number of releases given their renewed life. IG is likely going to be getting some more soon. Most people believe Primaris were there to phase out First Born. My guess is the first born line isn't selling as well as it could/should. So put out some stuff that will naturall replace the First Born, generate sales based on both them being new and being "better". Consider Primaris an entirely new "faction" - like the split codex rumor would make them - And that list looks a whole lot different with 0 Background releases.

Technically there is the Black Templar Castellan. The model is bigger than Firstborn, but the gear and inspiration (3rd edition cover) is clearly non-Primaris.

a_typical_hero wrote:

Breton wrote:
Its not surprising, but I'd point out that Marines didn't get their normal background level of releases. There were no First Born. They got the Range Reset/Reintroduction numbers of releases. Sisters is still getting a higher number of releases given their renewed life. IG is likely going to be getting some more soon. Most people believe Primaris were there to phase out First Born. My guess is the first born line isn't selling as well as it could/should. So put out some stuff that will naturall replace the First Born, generate sales based on both them being new and being "better". Consider Primaris an entirely new "faction" - like the split codex rumor would make them - And that list looks a whole lot different with 0 Background releases.

Technically there is the Black Templar Castellan. The model is bigger than Firstborn, but the gear and inspiration (3rd edition cover) is clearly non-Primaris.

Alas, hes primaris, according to his datasheet

I'm pleasantly surprised by the spread of releases.
I expected that GW divided the releases into 4 broad groups and each group would have seen similar number of kits released:

- Space Marines
- everything else Imperial
- Chaos
- Xenos

Going by the numbers in the OP that tallys as:

- Space Marine, 25 kits (including sub-factions but no the ones still only available in a box set).

- everything else Imperial, 24 kits

- Chaos, 21 kits

- Xenos, 59 kits

Aash wrote:
I'm pleasantly surprised by the spread of releases.
I expected that GW divided the releases into 4 broad groups and each group would have seen similar number of kits released:

- Space Marines
- everything else Imperial
- Chaos
- Xenos

Going by the numbers in the OP that tallys as:

- Space Marine, 25 kits (including sub-factions but no the ones still only available in a box set).

- everything else Imperial, 24 kits

- Chaos, 21 kits

- Xenos, 59 kits

Broken out that far, it isn't bad. But I'd like to see Custodes and GSC get some new releases with new data sheets - maybe a Mutation GSC bits kit (like the shoulderpad etc Chapter kits for SM) with heads and such for a corrupted Guard unit. I'd like to see Drukhari get some love, I'd like to see Orks get rules that may or may not result in new kits.

GSC as a codex are in a weird space, they require more options in other slots to be a rounded force, being 50% characters doesn't give many real list building options outside of them. The brood brothers implementation is so clunky it might as well not be there, they offer some units and roles that the gsc book doesn't, but without any of the faction perks of being guard and the gsc ones not applying to them, I don't see the dataslates offering enough to be worthwhile in isolation.

Breton wrote:

Its not surprising, but I'd point out that Marines didn't get their normal background level of releases. There were no First Born. They got the Range Reset/Reintroduction numbers of releases. Sisters is still getting a higher number of releases given their renewed life. IG is likely going to be getting some more soon. Most people believe Primaris were there to phase out First Born. My guess is the first born line isn't selling as well as it could/should. So put out some stuff that will naturall replace the First Born, generate sales based on both them being new and being "better". Consider Primaris an entirely new "faction" - like the split codex rumor would make them - And that list looks a whole lot different with 0 Background releases.

Marine sales were in HH last year. From the availability issues, really high in HH sales. If anything cannibalized and replaced 40k Old Marine sales, it was heresy releases.

I do find it interesting that everything released for HH so far has been cross-compatible with 40k. That will change with the jetbikes, however.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
I do find it interesting that everything released for HH so far has been cross-compatible with 40k. That will change with the jetbikes, however.

I can't foresee it staying that way though, unless there's another imperial armour compendium, which will see a lot of units moved to legends, it might be the point where they either go completely or get integrated permanently.

Dudeface wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
I do find it interesting that everything released for HH so far has been cross-compatible with 40k. That will change with the jetbikes, however.

I can't foresee it staying that way though, unless there's another imperial armour compendium, which will see a lot of units moved to legends, it might be the point where they either go completely or get integrated permanently.

Ehhh. Gw likes selling the models. And they obviously like selling books. So I'd expect another Imperial Armour, eventually. I do expect loyalists to get codex access to most of the stuff released in plastic, while Chaos might get access to the units that include an Eye of Horus in the kit. As that could count as a "Chaos bit".