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Chopstick wrote:
Look like there're matching left/right arm of most blades except for the Nightfiend and Shadeweaver. Don't mind me time to dual wield blade, and dual wield flames.

And enough spare arms and heads to make a few 'extra' models from the box by having a mandrake just emerging from a shadow, limb first. Ah, it'll be like making a box of zombies go further all over again!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/04/flayers-poisoners-and-prophetic-powers-getting-under-the-skin-of-the-nemesis-claw-kill-team/

I wish they used a different combat knife or at least switch it to the right side for the fearmonger.

The latest Balance Dataslate apparently dropped last weekend? Big changes this time around. Harlequins lost FLY, and many more smaller changes. This will shake up things considerably!

CURAC has the deets

It changes so fast, I barely even get enough time to try out the rules before they change again!

Ah yeah I think it’s just the like Starter one that’s less. Then the others at 80.
Shame if it’s going to 85, that’s even more past what I’d want to spend.
Particularly when I can get an individual Kill Team printed for a good price and much more to choose from.

The terrain is one huge single cast piece + sprue and the Nightlord upgrade is also on 2 sprues so price a bit higher is understandable.

I noticed that the Scout Squad and Blades of Khaine rules were posted for free on the website.

My review of the new Kill Team Nightmare box is now live, explaining all build options and what you can expect from the new book. I also took high-res sprue pics: https://taleofpainters.com/2024/04/review-kill-team-nightmare/

Aand its gone. Sold out in under an hour. And no doubt the vast majority of people only bought the box for the minis for their 40K armies

 stahly wrote:
My review of the new Kill Team Nightmare box is now live, explaining all build options and what you can expect from the new book. I also took high-res sprue pics: https://taleofpainters.com/2024/04/review-kill-team-nightmare/

Surprised you didn't mention one of the mandrakes is essentially an asset swap of one of the khainite shadowstalkers.

 tauist wrote:
Aand its gone. Sold out in under an hour. And no doubt the vast majority of people only bought the box for the minis for their 40K armies

Gee, almost like that's what the teams effectively were?

This whole season has been very lackluster. A big chunk of the revealed Kill Teams have just been units getting resculpts(Scorpions, Scouts, Mandrakes) or units getting upgrade frames(Night Lords and Brood Brothers). The only "new" has been the League of Votaan KT coming with Brood Brothers.

 tauist wrote:
Aand its gone. Sold out in under an hour. And no doubt the vast majority of people only bought the box for the minis for their 40K armies

Amazingly after about a year or so of abject failure to get anything on launch, my friend and I actually managed to get one (I'm having mandrakes half, and yes, it is for my 40k army)

 Kanluwen wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Aand its gone. Sold out in under an hour. And no doubt the vast majority of people only bought the box for the minis for their 40K armies

Gee, almost like that's what the teams effectively were?

This whole season has been very lackluster. A big chunk of the revealed Kill Teams have just been units getting resculpts(Scorpions, Scouts, Mandrakes) or units getting upgrade frames(Night Lords and Brood Brothers). The only "new" has been the League of Votaan KT coming with Brood Brothers.

upgrade sprues are nothing new for kill team. every vs box for kill team to date has been a new kit vs an old kit with an upgrade sprue. legionaries, pathfinders, hierotek circle, the first votann kill team, and so on

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Aand its gone. Sold out in under an hour. And no doubt the vast majority of people only bought the box for the minis for their 40K armies

Gee, almost like that's what the teams effectively were?

This whole season has been very lackluster. A big chunk of the revealed Kill Teams have just been units getting resculpts(Scorpions, Scouts, Mandrakes) or units getting upgrade frames(Night Lords and Brood Brothers). The only "new" has been the League of Votaan KT coming with Brood Brothers.

upgrade sprues are nothing new for kill team. every vs box for kill team to date has been a new kit vs an old kit with an upgrade sprue. legionaries, pathfinders, hierotek circle, the first votann kill team, and so on

Please read what I wrote, not what you thought I wrote:
This season's lackluster, not because of upgrade frames but because of the fact that out of the 6 revealed Kill Teams only one has actually been something new.
Bheta-Decima:
-Salvation featured Scouts(new sculpts with gubbins on the sprue) vs Striking Scorpions(new sculpts; 1/3 units available for the KT)
-Nightmare is Mandrakes(new sculpts with gubbins on the sprue) vs Night Lords(unit with upgrade frames)
-Termination features Mandrakes(Cadians with upgrade frame & repacked characters; lazy compared to the Blooded KT) vs Hernkyn Yaegirs(new unit with gubbins built into the sprue).



 Compare that to the Gallowdark season:
-Opened with Kroot Farstalkers v Breachers(both new)
-Moved to Shadowvaults with Hierotek Circle(upgrade frame+repacked character) v Kasrkin(new/returning unit)
-Moved to Soulshacke with Hand of the Archon(upgrade frame) v Arbites(new/returning unit)
-Ended with Gallowfall, featuring Fellgor Ravagers(new unit) v Hearthkyn Salvagers(unit with upgrade frame).

Gallowdark and Bheta-Decima were separated with "Ashes of Faith", a narrative Kill Team set which was just a repackage of a ton of products plus a single Inquisitorial warband that seemed to be just trainee sculpts released.

First season of KT2021?
-Octarius was "Veteran Guardsmen"(new DKoK models, but the ultimate generic KT name; unit with an included upgrade frame) v Ork Kommandos to start things off
-Chalnath was the Novitiates(a new unit with an upgrade frame built-in) v Pathfinders with an upgrade frame
-Nachmund Gauntlet was Corsairs(new unit; designed around being a KT and a unit) v CSM Legionaries with an upgrade frame(which really wasn't, because it featured an option that was in the unit profile from the codex to begin with)
-Moroch ended out the first season with the Traitor Guard "Blooded"(all new unit designed around being a KT, including a Blackstone Fortress character pack repurposed) vs Phobos Marines with an upgrade frame.

We're literally on an Adeptus Mechanicus research world, and not a single AdMech bit(a faction that would have been a perfect opportunity for an upgrade frame ala the Pathfinders to address weapons being 1 per sprue, for example) has been showcased. Instead we weirdly got Space Marine Scouts as "guards" for an AdMech facility that had an Aeldari prisoner?