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				<description><![CDATA[ Drool- check out this new armour protection system!&nbsp; <br />  <br />  <a target=_blank href="http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/52890/">www.pistolwimp.com/media/52890/</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wow. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Scary. For some reason I want to drive a tank now.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Give mole-mortars a little more value.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's supposedly some kind of beam of fragments, kind of like radar guided buckshot.  I guess.<br><br>That Terrorist Dude that shot the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(345);'>RPG</span> from the hip is hardcore.  You could be proud to wear that guy's skull on your belt.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's pretty awesome.&nbsp; I wonder how cost-effective something like that would be in the long run.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(334);'>WTF</span>? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(334);'>WTF</span>? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(334);'>WTF</span>?<br />  <br />  How does it work? Form the video I gather it creates a CGI dome over your tank...<br />  <br />  Is it an AGEIS type thing? What is it?</p>  <p>&nbsp;</p>  <p>EDIT here we go</p>  <p><a target=_blank href="http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm">http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm</a></p>  <p>Uses interceptor missiles.&nbsp; And the US army is passing on it for their own system.</p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not convinced.  It looks suspiciously like magic to me.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Jester  on  11/01/2006 8:45 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  I'm not convinced.  It looks suspiciously like magic to me.</div></blockquote>  <br />  Which is why I <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span> convinced.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He's a Witch!!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He's which?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sandwich.<br><br>pre-energy Shields for the&nbsp;win!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ All it is is an advanced radar detection system that guides a 'gun' that fires a cloud of slugs at the incomming target forcing it to detonate early. It's rad, but it isn't a shield.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I want one in the worst way for my wife's truck. &nbsp;Now when she backs into a boat or something it'll just blow away the boat before she hits it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's a gun? Bizarre. I thought it was some sort of reactive armor plating that could be rigged to blow at certain points that at a computer would tell it to. If they've got a gun that can track and shoot that fast, damn. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wow. Can imagine a constellation of snafus that would lead to an individual trooper<br>approaching a tank at high speed and then shredded to bits by an automated misfire?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The animation does look like aggressive reactive armor vs. some sort of gun.  Maybe the new RRAWMI armor acronym (REALLY REALLY REACTIVE ARMOR <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(411);'>WE</span> MEAN <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span>)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nope, sorry. It's magic. They decorate the inside with amulets against Lillith, tie red strings around the barrel of the gun, and paint Ezekiel 1 around the engine block. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Damn voodoo kabbalaists.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By syr8766  on  11/02/2006 7:30 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  Nope, sorry. It's magic. They decorate the inside with amulets against Lillith, tie red strings around the barrel of the gun, and paint Ezekiel 1 around the engine block. </div></blockquote>  And if a Rabbi said it, well, by _____, it has to be true!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The thing is that it doesn't have to track or aim very fast, because it shoots a massive cloud of crap at the incomming object. I recall a better video of the device in action but I can't remember where I've seen it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Hellfury on 11/02/2006 7:56 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  Damn voodoo kabbalaists.</div></blockquote>  You need to stop drinking the <i>mikvah</i> water, Patrick.&nbsp;&nbsp;Talmuduu, while quite powerful,&nbsp;involves too&nbsp;much preperation to be an effective battlefield weapon.&nbsp; Reverse-engineered Annunaki tech is much better, as&nbsp;its use in the Battle of Hammurabi's Stair and the Third Lunar War effectively showed.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />  <br />]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They had this in Battletech, at the same time as the Clan tech came out.  3050?  A defensive system that shot down incoming missiles. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yep, and I think the 3050 Warhammer came with it standard. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, Battletech had the AMS (anti-missile system) and the LAMS (laser anti-missile system).  The AMS was IS, while the LAMS was Clan... initially, at least.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I feel bad for the poor PVT that's gonna have to PMCS it every monday.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This really isn't anything too new. The French LeClerc II tank already has something very similar if I recall correctly. The Stryker vehicles are supposed to get it. Right now they have the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(345);'>RPG</span> cage which works pretty well.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He said Trophy about 100 times I must buy it no matter what it is.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Sgt_Scruffy on 11/05/2006 10:06 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  This really isn't anything too new. The French LeClerc II tank already has something very similar if I recall correctly. The Stryker vehicles are supposed to get it. Right now they have the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(345);'>RPG</span> cage which works pretty well.</div></blockquote>  <br />  You're misinterpreting the French LeClerc schematic there S Scruffy.&nbsp; It doesn't say &quot;actively defeats incoming attack vectors.&quot;&nbsp; Translated properly its &quot;actively surrenders to incoming attack vectors.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> <br />]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Russians been working and fielding land based anti-missile system(s) before anyone else got the idea. Sea based anti-missile systems been around even longer. <br><br>Inherent problem with the systems is they tend to turn <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> munition into anti-personnal, light armor munitions. Making it very unsafe for supporting infantry to cover them and vice versa, nevermind exposed noncombantants in urban evironments. Seacondary problem is the need to reload them periodally, hence the threat of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> crews expending cheaper older <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> munitions while saving the better more expensive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> munitions for when the reloading is taking place. Or do missile/RCL/rocket swarms to overwhelm the defenses, which have happened repeatedly in the past. <br><br>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mislovrit: Well, as you know, if you force them to roll armor saves they're<br>bound to fail one sooner or late, right?<br><br>Right?<br>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ladies and Gentlemen, Donald Rumsfeld.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By malfred  on  11/07/2006 4:03 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  Mislovrit: Well, as you know, if you force them to roll armor saves they're<br />  bound to fail one sooner or late, right?<br />  <br />  Right?<br />  </div></blockquote>  <br />  For MBT and medium tanks this isn't much of a problem as the AMS is just another layer of defense for them. For ships they don't have any armor and if anything hits them they're screwed.<br />  <br />]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Jester  on  11/07/2006 7:56 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  Ladies and Gentlemen, Donald Rumsfeld.</div></blockquote>  <br />  Jester I wanted him out of office after he cancel the Crusader and for his plans to severely downsized the Military back in 2001, before Sept. 11th happened.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes because we need a long range <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> for why?  Heavy weight <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> Artillery is old school. Predator drones that evolve until they are eventually sentient and take over the world-they are the  new black. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Mislovrit on 11/08/2006 11:04 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Jester on 11/07/2006 7:56 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  Ladies and Gentlemen, Donald Rumsfeld.</div></blockquote>  <br />  Jester I wanted him out of office after he cancel the Crusader and for his plans to severely downsized the Military back in 2001, before Sept. 11th happened.</div></blockquote>  <br />  <br />  There'll be a lot of happy people today.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think tha navy has had a system like this for decades. During the Faukland Island war between Argentina and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> the british navy had a few ships damaged by low flying anti-naval missiles fired from below radar flying super sonic jets. I saw a video of this kind if system on a US warship years ago talking about the reasons behind the weapons development . It was a huge white dome thing with a chain-gun sticking out it. It was freaky to watch because it basiclly auto-tracked and auto-fired. I imagiane this is just a mini version of that. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Smoke3 on 11/08/2006 2:49 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  I think tha navy has had a system like this for decades. During the Faukland Island war between Argentina and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> the british navy had a few ships damaged by low flying anti-naval missiles fired from below radar flying super sonic jets. I saw a video of this kind if system on a US warship years ago talking about the reasons behind the weapons development . It was a huge white dome thing with a chain-gun sticking out it. It was freaky to watch because it basiclly auto-tracked and auto-fired. I imagiane this is just a mini version of that. </div></blockquote>  <p>The US version is the AGEIS system I mentioned before.</p>  <p>&nbsp;</p>  <p>One difference is the Ageis uses a chain gun to shoot down missles while these systems use more of a shotgun/buckshot round.<br />  <br />  </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ But buckshot that gives the illusion of something solid.  I'm sure that someone is designing something that can defeat it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>Iirc</span> the British ships had the Phalanx CIWS removed or rendered inoperative prior to the Falkland War which doomed many of the ships that were hit.<br />]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ &lt;h1&gt;<font size="4"><font size="2">To clarified what AEGIS is from <a href="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/aegis.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>fas</span>.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/aegis.htm</a><br />  <br />  <blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />  AEGIS Weapon System MK-7<br />  <br />  Aegis, which means shield, is the Navy&rsquo;s latest surface combat system. Aegis was designed and developed as a complete system, capable of engaging in simultaneous warfare on several fronts -- air, surface, subsurface, and strike. Anti-Air Warfare elements include the Radar System AN/SPY-1B/D, Command and Decision System, and Weapons Control System.<br />  <br />  For more than 40 years, the US Navy has developed systems and tactics to protect itself from air attacks. Since the end of World War II, several generations of anti-ship missiles have emerged as the air threat to the fleet. The first combatant ship sunk by one of these missiles was an Israeli destroyer in October 1967, hit by a Soviet built missile. The threat posed by such weapons was reconfirmed in April 1988 when two Iranian surface combatants fired on US Navy ships and aircraft in the Persian Gulf. The resulting exchange of anti-ship missiles led to the destruction of an Iranian frigate and corvette by US built Harpoon missiles. Modern anti-ship missiles can be launched several hundred miles away. The attacks can be coordinated, combining air, surface and subsurface launches, so that the missiles arrive on target almost simultaneously.<br />  <br />  The US Navy's defense against this threat has continued to rely on the strategy of defense in depth. Guns were replaced in the late fifties by the first generation of guided missiles in ships and aircraft. By the late sixties, it was recognized that reaction time, firepower, and operational availability in all environments did not match the threat. As a result, an operational requirement for an Advanced Surface Missile System (ASMS) was promulgated and a comprehensive engineering development program was initiated to meet that requirement. ASMS was re-named AEGIS (after the mythological shield of Zeus) in December 1969.<br />  <br />  The complexity of the AEGIS combat system was such that the program demanded special management treatment, which led to the establishment of the AEGIS shipbuilding project at Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMS</span>-400) in 1977. The special management treatment combined and structured hull mechanical and electrical systems, combat systems, computer programs, repair parts, personnel maintenance documentation, and tactical operation documentation into one unified organization to create the multi-mission surface combatants that are today's AEGIS cruisers and destroyers. <br />  <br />  &quot;snip&quot; click for rest of page. </div  ></font><br />  </font>&lt;/h1&gt;]]></description>
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