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Inquisitorial Allies Composition

XpresoAdct — GMT

A friend did something that just feels wrong to me. Using Inquisitorial allies you are allowed 0-1 elite and 0-1 hq allies. To add an assassin you need an inquisitor. I have in the past used use an inquisitor lord as an hq and an assassin as an elite. Being that you can add both Daemonhunter and Witchhunter allies in a single army, he took a Daemonhunter elite inquisitor and a Witchhunter elite assassin and pointed out in both codices it states to take an assassin, you need an inquisitor. While not specific in the wording, it seems that a Witchhunter assassin would need a Witchhunter inquisitor.

I could not find any text to support my claim and we let him play with it as created.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

Centurian99 — GMT

Technically its allowable. That's why we FAQd it in the AdeptiCon FAQ.

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

XpresoAdct — GMT

Sorry, did not check the AdeptiCon FAQ for this one. Apologies! (I usually check there first)

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

General Hobbs — GMT

Posted By XpresoAdct on 04/30/2007 3:42 PM
A friend did something that just feels wrong to me. Using Inquisitorial allies you are allowed 0-1 elite and 0-1 hq allies. To add an assassin you need an inquisitor. I have in the past used use an inquisitor lord as an hq and an assassin as an elite. Being that you can add both Daemonhunter and Witchhunter allies in a single army, he took a Daemonhunter elite inquisitor and a Witchhunter elite assassin and pointed out in both codices it states to take an assassin, you need an inquisitor. While not specific in the wording, it seems that a Witchhunter assassin would need a Witchhunter inquisitor.

I could not find any text to support my claim and we let him play with it as created.
Anyone have any thoughts on this

An inquisitor bought FROM that list. The codices were written with that in mind.

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

blue loki — GMT

Posted By General Hobbs on 04/30/2007 7:41 PM
An inquisitor bought FROM that list. The codices were written with that in mind.

While I agree with you, there is no proof to this claim. We don't know what was in the mind of the writers when they wrote a specific rule, which is why intent arguments always fail.

This has been argued numerous times with no clear resolution reached.

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

General Hobbs — GMT

Posted By blue loki on 05/01/2007 6:07 AM

Posted By General Hobbs on 04/30/2007 7:41 PM
An inquisitor bought FROM that list. The codices were written with that in mind.

While I agree with you, there is no proof to this claim. We don't know what was in the mind of the writers when they wrote a specific rule, which is why intent arguments always fail.

This has been argued numerous times with no clear resolution reached.

People keep forgetting that the rules tell you what you can do. Do they say you can take a WH assassin witha DH Inquisitor? Nope, so you can't.

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

Lorek — GMT

They don't specify Witch Hunter or Demonhunter, they just say Inquisitor and Assassin. Since both codexes have Inquisitor and Assassin entries, it doesn't matter where each one comes from. That's what the rule does say. What it DOESN'T say is that the assassin must come from the same allied army as the inquisitor. That restriction is never placed.

Now argue until your face is blue, Second Lieutenant Hobbs.

By your logic, Hobbs, you would have to use generic dice. Brand name Chessex dice are right out the window because the rules don't say that you can use them.

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

Hellfury — GMT

Posted By General Hobbs on 05/01/2007 9:45 AM

Posted By blue loki on 05/01/2007 6:07 AM

Posted By General Hobbs on 04/30/2007 7:41 PM
An inquisitor bought FROM that list. The codices were written with that in mind.

While I agree with you, there is no proof to this claim. We don't know what was in the mind of the writers when they wrote a specific rule, which is why intent arguments always fail.

This has been argued numerous times with no clear resolution reached.

People keep forgetting that the rules tell you what you can do. Do they say you can take a WH assassin witha DH Inquisitor? Nope, so you can't.

Oh yeah, because closed assumption is completly permissive... *rolleyes*

You cant wear green shoes, because the rules dont say you can.

You cant paint your space marines anyway you would like because the rules dont say you can.

You cannot eat certain types of ????? food during "??????" because the ???? doesnt say you can.

RE: Inquisitorial Allies Composition

Mannahnin — GMT

This thread has covered the ground. The rules do not specify, though the intent is probably to restrict allied assassins to armies which also include an Inquisitor Lord, thus removing the potential abuse by functionally doubling the price. Just taking a 20pt Elite Inquisitor from the other codex is likely to be seen as abusive by opponents, as it was by the Adepticon committee, who FAQed it.

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