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Updated Space Marine FAQ

ptlangley — GMT

Seems exciting... it isn't. The big change is to take away a techmarines extra attack from having a plasma pistol on the servo harness. I guess everyone is going to stop making those uber powerful techmarine armies now... wait nobody uses techmarines anymore.

There might be other changes but I couldn't see it.

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Kid_Kyoto — GMT

link for the lazy?

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Ghaz — GMT

http://uk.games-workshop.com/news/errata/3/

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Hellfury — GMT

Ahh very nice.

It was most certainly neccesary to clear up that overpowered brokeness that people kept getting away with concerning techmarines. The cheesy gits.

Now, where the hell is my god damned Eldar FAQ?

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yakface — GMT

Well it's a good sign in that they finally seem to be updating their old FAQs to match changes they make in related codices (since the rule for Techmarines was the opposite in the DA/BA codices).

It is a practice that is LONG overdue but would be much more helpful if they'd go back to some of their older FAQs and clear up the glaring inconsistencies that remain.

Of course they also should have updated the SM FAQ with some of the FAQs that they failed to include the first time, like all sorts of questions about how Castellan minefields exactly work, if Be Swift as the Wind applies to Attack bike squadrons, etc.

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ptlangley — GMT

Yes I suppose it is a good sign although a little discouraging that it took that long to simply change a "yes" to a "no" and somewhat more discouraging they have that kind of "urgency" to completely reverse a decision on an altogether minor detail on an underused unit but no hint of FAQs for Eldar or DAs.

Do you ever feel like if you make enough sarcastic comments about how lethargic GW is they might change?

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ubermosher — GMT

Posted By ptlangley on 08/07/2007 3:47 AM
Do you ever feel like if you make enough sarcastic comments about how lethargic GW is they might change?

Just the opposite... the more sarcastic comments made, the more lethargic GW gets out of spite.

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stecal — GMT

Unfortunately true. GW reacts to criticism by hiding and retreating.

For example:
Website forums are a problem -- close them
Retailers sneaking new releases info -- stop telling anyone what future releases are
etc, etc

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Tacobake — GMT

To be fair one way or the other I had a two second reflex GW *female dog*-fit when I was reading in the BA FAQ and it said Techmarine plasma pistols did not count as a second CCW.

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tegeus-Cromis — GMT

Strangely enough, the BT FAQ states that Techmarines do get +1 A for the harness plaspistol.

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Ozymandias — GMT

Posted By tegeus-Cromis on 08/07/2007 2:58 PM
Strangely enough, the BT FAQ states that Techmarines do get +1 A for the harness plaspistol.

*sigh* GW, I'm gonna stop defending you if you keep making these kinds of mistakes...

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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insaniak — GMT

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/07/2007 4:12 PM
*sigh* GW, I'm gonna stop defending you if you keep making these kinds of mistakes...

It's not a mistake. Updating FAQs is a difficult, time-consuming job. I'm sure they're working hard as we speak, and that the BT FAQ will be updated within a mere year or so.

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H.B.M.C. — GMT

Let's all stop complaining about these FAQ's for a change and just be happy that the time of the Techmarine Terror has come to an end... damned techmarines with their +1A for having extra arms...

BYE

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H.B.M.C. — GMT

Actually, speaking of complaining, if we complain about these FAQ's (because they're incomplete, miss most of the actual questions, and generally speak to GW's laziness in this arena), then they're just going to come back with 'We released FAQ's, and you weren't happy with it, so no more FAQ's'.

BYE

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thegrognard — GMT

Or better yet, "you complained about the FAQ, so you'll have to wait for the new Codex". Oh, wait, that's what's been going on. "Ok, then when you wait for the new codex, we'll do a stealth increase!" 'Cause you know that the BA 'freebie' will be redone and new and improved and official later on thus superseeding said 'freebie'.

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Tacobake — GMT

Posted By tegeus-Cromis on 08/07/2007 2:58 PM
Strangely enough, the BT FAQ states that Techmarines do get +1 A for the harness plaspistol.

hilarious

True story.

Once, I was against my friend's BA with my Striking Scorpions and my buddy was outraged that I could turn OFF my powerfist, and this would then allow me to beat him upside the head with my Shuriken Pistol at S5 I6.

I just had to share.

I'm going to sleep.

bye.

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Tacobake — GMT

You know I don't know if I've known anyone to actually use a techmarine, altho I always wanted a cool one on a bike.

Oh wait I knew a guy who would re-roll his Scout's ML

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Hellfury — GMT

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/07/2007 4:12 PM

Posted By tegeus-Cromis on 08/07/2007 2:58 PM
Strangely enough, the BT FAQ states that Techmarines do get +1 A for the harness plaspistol.

*sigh* GW, I'm gonna stop defending you if you keep making these kinds of mistakes...

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Whoa! Slow down, mate! Lets not make hasty decisions that will be quite profoundly regretted later on.

If you join the dark side, that will only leave Toreador to defend GW by himself. You cant leave your mate to the lions now can you?

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Pariah Press — GMT

Posted By Hellfury on 08/07/2007 6:38 PM

Whoa! Slow down, mate! Lets not make hasty decisions that will be quite profoundly regretted later on.

If you join the dark side, that will only leave Toreador to defend GW by himself. You cant leave your mate to the lions now can you?

Oh, don't worry about it. I can take over for a while.

"The design team tests each unit very carefully. The point costs are balanced. Kroot Mercenaries are a viable army; I'm sure that in the hands of a good general they can beat a Nidzilla list."

How's that?

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ubermosher — GMT

Hmmm... Just checked out the errata page on the US site. Conspicuous by its absence is the old Eldar FAQ. Has the link been gone for a while or is this a new development? If this is a new development, does it portend a forthcoming 4th ed. FAQ? In the next 24 months?

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Pariah Press — GMT

Pah! We should be so lucky!

Oop! I mean, "I'm sure that the design team will give us updated FAQs as soon as we actually need them. Not that there are any errors in the books, just that some of us keep asking the same questions so frequently!"

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Lordhat — GMT

I'm actually kind of pissed about the Techammarine losing his extra attack. (Yes I do run one, with a PF no less.) Now I only get 6 attacks on the charge..... need to swap his bolter with a bolt pistol... Damnit!

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Hellfury — GMT

Posted By Lordhat on 08/07/2007 7:29 PM
I'm actually kind of pissed about the Techammarine losing his extra attack. (Yes I do run one, with a PF no less.) Now I only get 6 attacks on the charge..... need to swap his bolter with a bolt pistol... Damnit!

You cheesy bastard. serves you right.

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Hellfury — GMT

Posted By Pariah Press on 08/07/2007 6:53 PM

"The design team tests each unit very carefully. The point costs are balanced. Kroot Mercenaries are a viable army; I'm sure that in the hands of a good general they can beat a Nidzilla list."

Damn, youre right.

I have been much to harsh about kroot mercs lately. I failed to see the real logic behind them due to my own tactical shortcoming and blamed GW for it.

Nidzillas arent overpowered, I just have a small ruler. I have ruler envy.

I am a douche.

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H.B.M.C. — GMT

Posted By Pariah Press on 08/07/2007 7:18 PM

Oop! I mean, "I'm sure that the design team will give us updated FAQs as soon as we actually need them. Not that there are any errors in the books, just that some of us keep asking the same questions so frequently!"

You're on a roll man!

Now tell us how the Dark Angel Codex is perfect and how we're being childish for being annoyed that GW is invalidating all our Chaos sub-lists and armies that we've spent time and money putting together.

Then once you've done that explain how Jervis might just be the 2nd Comming.

BYE

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Pariah Press — GMT

"The Dark Angel Codex encapsulates perfectly the very essence of the Dark Angels' fluff. Surely they follow the Codex Astartes (Deathwing and Ravenwing excepted, of course). Surely they are tradition-bound, and insist that all of the upper-echelon officers of their successor chapters take on the same names as the officer's of the original Dark Angels chapter. Ravenwing Bikes with teleport homers (free!) are the perfect "catalyst" unit to use with Deathwing Terminators, whose ability to take lightning claws easily (easily!) makes up of the loss of a second weapon.

"Any Chaos army you had before can still be played with the new Codex. A few names have been changed, and you might have to swap a weapon or two, but those are well within the capabilities of a committed hobbiest such as yourself, right? You are committed, right?

"As far as Jervis being the Second Coming goes... my sig line says it all!"

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Kid_Kyoto — GMT

Posted By tegeus-Cromis on 08/07/2007 2:58 PM
Strangely enough, the BT FAQ states that Techmarines do get +1 A for the harness plaspistol.

That's not strange. If you knew anything about the FLUFF! you would know that BT tech marines really, really love the Space Emperor unlike other tech marines who are kind of meh about him so they get an extra attack.

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Kid_Kyoto — GMT

Posted By Pariah Press on 08/08/2007 12:21 AM
"The Dark Angel Codex encapsulates perfectly the very essence of the Dark Angels' fluff.

They came out of the closet?

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Pariah Press — GMT

No! They can never come out of the closet! It's their secret shame!

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Lordhat — GMT

Posted By Hellfury on 08/07/2007 7:49 PM

Posted By Lordhat on 08/07/2007 7:29 PM
I'm actually kind of pissed about the Techammarine losing his extra attack. (Yes I do run one, with a PF no less.) Now I only get 6 attacks on the charge..... need to swap his bolter with a bolt pistol... Damnit!
You cheesy bastard. serves you right.

MMMM the power of cheese. Actually what I'm REALLY pissed about is the fact that I JUST built my Techmarine two weeks ago (After a LONG time figuring out just HOW I was going to attach his Jump Pack) and am in the middle of painting him, now I have to swap out that damn bolter with a pistol without ruining the progress I've made so far.

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Ozymandias — GMT

Posted By Hellfury on 08/07/2007 6:38 PM

Whoa! Slow down, mate! Lets not make hasty decisions that will be quite profoundly regretted later on.

If you join the dark side, that will only leave Toreador to defend GW by himself. You cant leave your mate to the lions now can you?

Haha.... Nah, I'll still defend them when people get too worked up on hating GW and lose all rationality. But I won't defend them if they make stupid errors like releasing contradictory or incomplete FAQ's.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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Toreador — GMT

Defended when defendable. The crazy ranting and raving by the loons that are the Dakka berzerker squad usually needs a little tempering, but the FAQ situation is horrible. Gav used to churn these things out quick, whether you liked them or not, for WHFB.PP puts out so many changes people can't even keep up AND they churn out new rules. GW steps in and makes a minor adjustments for a figure that is hardly used. What they need is an FAQ for the main rules. Everyone has compiled lists, questions have been asked over and over, get the team together and push it out. Two things killed the game in our area, and that was rule issues from the main book and balanced armies. Get the first out of the way and you can work towards the other.

Like France, some things are just not defendable.

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Sgt_Scruffy — GMT

Posted By Toreador on 08/08/2007 8:08 AM
Defended when defendable. The crazy ranting and raving by the loons that are the Dakka berzerker squad usually needs a little tempering, but the FAQ situation is horrible. Gav used to churn these things out quick, whether you liked them or not, for WHFB.PP puts out so many changes people can't even keep up AND they churn out new rules. GW steps in and makes a minor adjustments for a figure that is hardly used. What they need is an FAQ for the main rules. Everyone has compiled lists, questions have been asked over and over, get the team together and push it out. Two things killed the game in our area, and that was rule issues from the main book and balanced armies. Get the first out of the way and you can work towards the other.

Like France, some things are just not defendable.

Oh Noes!!!111!! Toreador has fallen too! With Ozymandias and Toreador both giving way, Ozgiliath has fallen! Now no force stands between the vile forces of Dakka and the lands of GW Fanboyz!! Warseer and B&C beware! Light the fires, maybe Fat Bloke will come to your aid!

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stonefox — GMT

They came out of the closet?

Um, yeah... You know how kids say "That's so effing gay, dude" when talking about craptastic things? Yeah, I'd call the Dark Angels list pretty gay 'cuz it sucks _(DA object of your choice)_.

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Toreador — GMT

Haven't given way, just the same ol same ol. There are things I complain about, just not always what everyone here complains about

and the FAQs are a horrible mess...

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DarkKhabal — GMT

i never counted it as an extra attack anyway, i dump the bolter for a plasma pistol always
add that to my jump pack and servo harness and im good to go

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Ozymandias — GMT

Posted By DarkKhabal on 08/08/2007 10:16 AM
i never counted it as an extra attack anyway, i dump the bolter for a plasma pistol always
add that to my jump pack and servo harness and im good to go

Careful, they may FAQ that you can't have a jump pack and a servo-harness!

BTW, I'm having trouble cause DA placed last at the Chicago GT (though Tyranids placed last at Baltimore).

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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Asmodai — GMT

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/08/2007 11:26 AM

Posted By DarkKhabal on 08/08/2007 10:16 AM
i never counted it as an extra attack anyway, i dump the bolter for a plasma pistol always
add that to my jump pack and servo harness and im good to go

Careful, they may FAQ that you can't have a jump pack and a servo-harness!

BTW, I'm having trouble cause DA placed last at the Chicago GT (though Tyranids placed last at Baltimore).

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Competitive players generally think DA is weaker than regular CSM for tourney play (and they're not wrong).

Given that, the competitive players bring other armies, those that bring DA would tend to be fluff players. That could help explain the poor showing.

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Ozymandias — GMT

I want to see a really competitive player try out DA for a tournament and see how they do. Personally, I favor my Dark Eldar for Tourney use (not that I'm even a big tournament guy, usually just local RT's).

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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Padre — GMT

Ozy,

Anthony Chellew (sp?) recently won the Brisbane GT with a Dark Angels Deathwing Army. I'm pretty sure he had 4 wins, 1 draw, and a loss (against a super shooty Tau army...)

I had the pleasure of playing him using a shooty vanilla Marines list , and got wiped out - flanked me by using deep strike, used terrain to negate my Dev squads and rolled me up.

On first read I thought the DA Codex was unusable...now, not so sure...

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