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New GW Sneak Peeks

Ozymandias — GMT

New 40k Sneak Peeks up! Apocalypse stuff, moonscape landscape (wtf?), Vindicator, Vortex Grenade Template and more!

http://us.games-workshop.com/news/sneakpeek/default.htm

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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NinjaRay — GMT

I was looking at the Apoc dice again and notices that you can see 1's 6's 3's and 5's on the dice, so what side has the Adeptus Mechanicus Symbol in it? 2's and/or 4's? Very odd.

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Jester — GMT

The Vindicator is kind of cool, but the Vortex Grenade template seems silly.

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Geddonight — GMT

hrm... interesting Vortex Grenade... how the heck does one measure it's use? (I.E. you throw these, right, but it's not so easy to make sure your aim is accurate if you the tape measure to the center has to be so high above the model to reach the grenade)

But then again... ROADS!!! Looks to be a roll; probably made of painted vinyl. Turns out that release schedule wasn't a typo when it said 10' of Road. Something that might actually be worth purchasing.

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Phryxis — GMT

The Vindicator looks nice. Seems like a ForgeWorld model ported over. The extra amor is nice, tho, might be useful on any Rhino chassis, since it won't cost as much if it's not from FW (and will probably fit better).

With every passing day it gets clearer to me... I love virtually every model GW puts out. And I hate their rules more and more. Could somebody in the creative department just take over the rules department?

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Pariah Press — GMT

I suspect that the Vindicator is an entirely new kit, not based on the Rhino chassis. I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong, as plastic extra armour would be a nice thing to have available.

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Ozymandias — GMT

Why would they not base it on the Rhino chassis? It's probably add ons like the pred or razorback.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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bejustorbedead — GMT

Um, wow. That Chaos Vindicator isn't even "chaosy" by GWs ever-decreasing Chaos standards.

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Pariah Press — GMT

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/08/2007 8:18 PM
Why would they not base it on the Rhino chassis? It's probably add ons like the pred or razorback.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Well, look at it! There's very little of the original Rhino showing. If it's add-ons, there are far more add-ons than with the Razorback and the Predator.

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ph34r — GMT

They left the Imperial skull + wings on the chaos vindicator.

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Elusive71 — GMT

Hmm... Emperor's Fist and Tau Empire Rapid Insertion Force. Sounds like a dream I had last night.

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Hellfury — GMT

Posted By Pariah Press on 08/08/2007 9:14 PM

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/08/2007 8:18 PM
Why would they not base it on the Rhino chassis? It's probably add ons like the pred or razorback.

Ozymandias, King of Kings
Well, look at it! There's very little of the original Rhino showing. If it's add-ons, there are far more add-ons than with the Razorback and the Predator.

It looks to me like a new side covering over the place where the door is, new front plate for the cannon, as well as a new top plate, some extra cap to put on the badonkadonk....on a rhino chassis.

Oops forgot about remarking on the zogging huge/slowed bulldozer blade.

I dont think it will be any more sprues than the whirlwind or predator added to the rhino chassis.

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Phryxis — GMT

Dozer blade is very similar to the FW one, as is the gun, mantlet, aiming deivce, top edge of turret, etc. The vents on the rear deck are more like the old style one.

It's actually quite a bit different than the FW kit overall.

I think this will be built on top of a Rhino chassis, but the number of extra parts required will be fairly large, probably one large sprue.

Don't forget the Exorcist kits (and Sister's kits in general). They're all built on top of Rhinos, and have fairly large sections of stacked on stuff. The Exorcist has five big metal plates on it, a huge stack of pipe organ, plus the usual Sister's Rhino top, plus the door decorations. Almost as much of a the base Rhino kit is covered there as it would be here. But with plastic, less of a pain to deal with.

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Gundammecha — GMT

Posted By NinjaRay on 08/08/2007 5:34 PM
I was looking at the Apoc dice again and notices that you can see 1's 6's 3's and 5's on the dice, so what side has the Adeptus Mechanicus Symbol in it? 2's and/or 4's? Very odd.

Umm... I had thought originally that it would represent a 1 like they've done in the past with other speical edition dice, however if you can see the 1's then that can't be the case...

A special "all my tanks are now fixed courtesy of the Tech magos" rule would be nice!

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Gundammecha — GMT

Posted By ph34r on 08/08/2007 9:34 PM
They left the Imperial skull + wings on the chaos vindicator.

Oh the irony... maybe the tank commander has a sense of humour

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Wayfarer — GMT

They'd make a mint if the extra armor is on its own sprue that would be available for bits order.

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Pariah Press — GMT

Posted By Hellfury on 08/08/2007 11:37 PM
Oops forgot about remarking on the zogging huge/slowed bulldozer blade.

I love huge/slowed things, especially that dozer blade. I will certainly consider a Vindicator or three at some point. With all of the urban terrain I've been making lately, the could come in handy.

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Witterquick — GMT

If you want to buy three, apparently they now sell them as a set.

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Boss Salvage — GMT

For a mere $95 too. And remember, all 3 firing in concert = 10" template of death that removes underlying terrain on a 4+

<3

- Salvage

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Boss Salvage — GMT

Nobody mentioned these ones ...

Another OK mek, and yet more marines! Though they do look pretty nice I suppose, and note the return of the non-powerfist-with-dusters lightning claw.

- Salvage

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tegeus-Cromis — GMT

Oh noes, there are two Marines in that squad posing with one of their feet on rocks/rubble! Now how will we know who the squad leader is??

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stonefox — GMT

Oh noes, there are two Marines in that squad posing with one of their feet on rocks/rubble! Now how will we know who the squad leader is??

One has a loin-...er one has helmet marking-...hm, one has a fancy shoulder-... oops. Well, you got me there, buddy. I'll add this to the "chicken and the egg" and the "tree makes a sound in forest?" koans.

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tegeus-Cromis — GMT

If only the helmetless Marine were screaming, we wouldn't be faced with this problem.

Seriously, though, those are some pretty nice minis, but it seems like a huge waste to me. Marine Vets were already very decent (and pretty recent!) figures; why redo them again? Meanwhile, Eldar jetbikes are still wearing little jackets and Darth Vader masks. . . .

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Breotan — GMT

Regarding the Necron Phalanx... how do you make a phalanx with two monoliths? I mean the definition of a phalanx being "a body of heavily armed infantry" incorporating ranks and files.

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Jezrael — GMT

I love how everyone complains about another marine release but then that's all they comment on.

So how about that Big Mek. Looks nice. But I wouldn't want to get one till I know what it does in the new codex.

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bigchris1313 — GMT

I do like the Big Mek. But I cannot help but jump on the marines to say: "Why?"

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Ahtman — GMT

Posted By Breotan on 08/09/2007 8:43 AM
Regarding the Necron Phalanx... how do you make a phalanx with two monoliths? I mean the definition of a phalanx being "a body of heavily armed infantry" incorporating ranks and files.

I suppose in the same way that if you look up the definition of a Pirhana or Eagle you won't get a description of a Tau light skimmer or an McDonnel Douglas F-15.

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Anung Un Rama — GMT

I think my Warboss needs a few words with my current big mek....I think he's fired....

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Jezrael — GMT

I'm going to hazard a guess and say the phalanx will be the large amount of troops hanging out between the two 'Liths because of the wicked evil bonuses they get there.

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Pariah Press — GMT

I don't like the Mek. The one that came out for Medusa V (the Mek with the Kustom Force Field) was a lot better.
The Veterans are nice, I suppose. You can tell the squad leader by the fact that he has a red laurel. Oh, wait...

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syr8766 — GMT

I like the new Vindie. Too bad I can't be bothered to care about my marines at this point.

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Phryxis — GMT

Love the ammo feed on the Mek's gun.

Hate the fact that the keep making models with single Lightning Claws. Who the hell actually uses that?

The Marine vets are decent models, but not really necessary. Maybe there's not much cost investment in metals so it's worth it to them. The one with Fist is nice. Just a good simple Fist model.

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malfred — GMT

But Yair! I posted your Spase Marinez! post...

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Ozymandias — GMT

Too bad the Chapter Council is really the same guy with different weapons. I suppose I could just use the DA plastics and create my own, unique chapter council (for a lot cheaper too!).

As for the vindies, I don't really need 3.... but what the hell, its only 3 more tanks on sprues I haven't put together yet. They can keep the 3 razorbacks company.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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Pariah Press — GMT

The difference is that the Vindicator is actually a pretty good tank, whereas Razorbacks... (shudder)

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tanker — GMT

The Vindicator is of course the all plastic update to the now very old design based off of the old Rhino body from ten years ago. The new model is based very heavily on the design of the ForgeWorld model that has been out for well over a year (two maybe?). http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/vindicator.htm

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H.B.M.C. — GMT

Anyone else think that the Necron Lord is really fat?

BYE

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Moopy — GMT

Does this Rez Orb make me look fat?

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1000 yard stair — GMT

How many people are seriously going to shell out the coin to buy the apocalypse sized box sets? Is there really a need/demand in the market to support these?

I can see people buying them at 25% off splitting them up and reselling individually on ebay, sure that makes sense. But, are the apoc sets really going to be sold in an amount which makes sense for GW to combine them in the first place?

I know trying to understand GW marketing theory is like getting your mind around quantum physics, but why don't they just say if you buy x amount of box sets you get y amount of discount? The more sets you buy at a time the deeper your discount?

The people who still want 3 vindicators ( probably only the people who will start playing double dp double lash chaos, nasty) can still get them at the combined apoc set discount (i foolishly assume there is one). This would probaly move more product in general and not just the new stuff.

As for the models themselves. More marines in not so exciting poses, bleh. Ork looks interesting, but if you want me to buy orks put out the codex. Other than the ork the models look pretty similar to what we already have.

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Ahtman — GMT

I get the impression that many of these monster boxes are not going to be permanent sets, but instead be available upon release and as they go that's it. I'm liking that Tau Rapid insertion force myself.

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Asmodai — GMT

I have so many unpainted models. Right now I can't justify buying more models that I'll never have the chance to paint.

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keichi246 — GMT

Hey 1000 yard Stair,

I dunno - it actually makes sense from a business standpoint.

Look at the contents of most of the uber Apocalypse boxes. If almost all the models in those sets HAVEN'T paid off their tooling costs yet - I'd be *seriously* surprised. So basically - the cost of the set is the resources required to make the box (negligible) and the cost of the sprues (also negligible). If any of those boxes cost more than about $5 for GW to make... Since the cost of a single medium or large sized box is still less than 3 or more small or medium boxes - GW is actually saving money over deals on the smaller boxes.

Anybody who was thinking "hmm - maybe I'll build an IG army" is probably going "ya know - that is a pretty good discount" . Basically, GW has finally realized that maybe we are a little price sensitive. By doing these "splash release DEAL boxes" - they are pulling in a fair number of "maybe I'll consider army X" customers.

It's a win/win for them. Cost wise - it isn't bad for them - especially the deals that are direct order only. They "pull" fairly large purchases from borderline cutomers, and possibly get new or regain old players. I'm thinking Apocalypse is going to be a SERIOUS profit generator for GW in the 4th Quarter.

Frankly - I think Apocalypse is the one of the hopeful signs that GW is actually waking up and realizing that they need to DO something to keep in the game.

Barring discussion of rules quality (I think they are headed in a viable direction - others don't. i agree to your right to disagree...)

1) It looks like GW is pulling the thumb out of their #@$ and realizing that more frequent codexes is a good thing. (note Chaos, Apocalypse, Orks are all being released in a very short time span for GW. There are also rumors that Necrons, Space Marines Redux, Space Wolves, and several "White Dwarf" army updates are in the pipeline. If that is the case- GW has SERIOUSLY stepped up their Codex production schedule. 'Bout bloody time...

2) It looks like GW may also be realizing "FAQs" have their place - and they really should be updated as necessary.

3) Scattering new model releases instead of releasing them all around the codex makes people spend money more consistently - instead of in surges determined by the Codex release schedule.

Myself, I'm looking at the Apocalypse backpack, a Baneblade, possibly one of the IG boxes, and one or more of the smaller Tau boxes. Considering that adds up to more than I have spent on everything GW for the past year and a half; pulling that much out of me in the span of about a month is REALLY impressive...

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Tazok — GMT

Posted By 1000 yard stair on 08/10/2007 3:26 AM
How many people are seriously going to shell out the coin to buy the apocalypse sized box sets? Is there really a need/demand in the market to support these?

People are always looking for deals. How long has it been since GW had a really good deal? Only a few small splash releases come to mind and I don't think they were that great (i.e. black orks) I know I'm tempted to pick up an army deal, maybe Tyranids. The only downsize to these deals on GW's part is they have the potential to cannibalize future sales.

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keichi246 — GMT

Posted By Tazok on 08/10/2007 7:05 AM

The only downsize to these deals on GW's part is they have the potential to cannibalize future sales.

That's always a risk. when you run a "sale" of any magnitude. Then again; maybe their viewpoint is that if that people start new armies, or simply "rejoin" the hobby - they will get future sales they would not have gotten otherwise.

It's a gamble for GW. A strong 4th quarter would likely make the investors/stockholders happy - having a beneficial effect for the company as a whole. It's a small risk that they will damage future sales - but it also holds the potential to be a big "windfall" for them - possibly as large as the LOTR bubble if they work it correctly.

Every gamer knows that sometimes you have to risk to win big. Only time will tell if this was a good call or not.

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Pariah Press — GMT

Posted By Tazok on 08/10/2007 7:05 AM

People are always looking for deals. How long has it been since GW had a really good deal?

Battle For Skull Pass. Not so long ago.

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syr8766 — GMT

Posted By malfred on 08/09/2007 5:14 PM
But Yair! I posted your Spase Marinez! post...

Sigh. I know. I have the guys and am ready to go back to them, but they're on the back burner as I do my Skorne.

Frankly, every time I try to get excited about 40k, and I start looking through Codicies, my heart breaks just a little.

pcerretti and I are looking to convert the game over to Battlefield Evolution (okay, this is mostly his project right now, but I'm happy to tool around with SOBs and Eldar etc.), that might get me excited again...

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The Crawling Chaos — GMT

Posted By H.B.M.C. on 08/09/2007 11:20 PM
Anyone else think that the Necron Lord is really fat?

BYE

I think they just put the destroyer lord on legs. Which is why he looks disproportionate. Oh, and they gave him a different staff. That makes him a totally different model.

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gamepsycho95 — GMT

i play guard, and i am liking what is coming out for them. basilisk artillery battery (3 basilisks) and the emperor's first tank company (10 tanks...WOW), and last but DEFINITELY not least, the BANEBLADE. =).

i tell you, if they come out with something like the space marine battle company for guard, it'll start to feel like i AM playing guard. swarms of men and tanks? that is the generalization of guard.

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Padre — GMT

Hey GamePsycho,

They are coming out with company deals for IG. Have a look at the other Apocalypse posts...if you're a Guard player, it'll make your day...

Me, I'ld just like an idea what's going to be included in the backpack deal, so I can start working out future purchases...

Padre^.

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