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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>In case you aren't already aware, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> recently declared the Lost and the Damned army list officially unofficial.&nbsp; </p>  <p>If, like me, you don't want to see <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span> go the way of the Squats, please sign a petition at <a target=_blank href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/latd40k/">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/latd40k/</a>. The petition isn't a crazy rant.&nbsp; What we're asking for is a pretty reasonable request -- the army's inclusion in a new codex, an official White Dwarf list, or (if all else fails) an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> to the existing list so that the army is once again official and compatible.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>  <p>It's easy to be skeptical about online petitions.&nbsp; But in this case I think it's exactly what the situation requires.&nbsp; Because <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> doesn't sell <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span> miniatures, the army is in a blind spot for them.&nbsp; This is our chance to show <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span> has more support than they realize, and that the army occupies a unique place in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> universe and game.&nbsp; </p>  <p>Since the army skews toward vets, we're hoping for some good support from the Dakka faithful.&nbsp; I'm guessing most of us here agree that the game is better off with some non-power-armored representation of Chaos.&nbsp; Too many players have put too much time into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span> armies...we can't let this stand without speaking up.</p>  <p>Please feel free to forward this on to your gaming buddies.&nbsp; If we get enough signatures, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> *will* notice.&nbsp; And that may be all we need to put the right idea in their heads.&nbsp; </p>  <p>Thanks for your support.</p>  <p><a target=_blank href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/latd40k/">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/latd40k/</a></p>  <p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:10:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>RE: Interested in seeing LatD return?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Just enter every <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span> with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> army. Proxy skinny <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> as Eldar<br>rules, Regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> rules. Phat <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> as Chaos/Space Orks.<br><br>Get a flood of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> models into Golden Demons.<br><br>Have Jervis wake up with the head of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> guardsman in his bed.<br><br>That sort of thing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:33:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By malfred on 08/20/2007 12:33 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <br />  Have Jervis wake up with the head of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> guardsman in his bed.<br />  <br />  </div></blockquote>  <br />  An address and plane fare is all I ask.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oops, I signed twice.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I signed, but <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s attitude towards online petitions hasn't been very positive in the past, and I don't really think that much has changed.<br />  <br />  Still, I'm glad you're trying and I hope for the best.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:21:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By malfred on 08/20/2007 12:33 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <br />  Have Jervis wake up with the head of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> guardsman in his bed.<br />  <br />  </div></blockquote>  <p><br />  Wouldn't that be heads, on account of them being&nbsp;mutants?<br />  </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ that'd be a much better idea- get a large-ish group of people together and invade a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span><br>everyone taking a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> army with a different army list  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> <br><br>that would turn some heads]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:58:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>You should wait till after the new mass battle game comes out, then see if your petition is warented.</p>  <p>&nbsp;</p>  <p>In my opinion, I liked the old rules best, and Lost and the Damned is best played old school. build your army from the ground up, and let your warband grow. Think Necromunda on steroides.</p>  <p>The other 3rd edition armies are ok, but do you really think that they would come out with masses of muties, giant muties, and ogryn sized muties if they were really getting rid of them? They will be making thier appearance soon enough.</p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:47:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Grot 6 on 08/20/2007 5:47 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <p>You should wait till after the new mass battle game comes out, then see if your petition is warented.</p>  <p>&nbsp;</p>  <p>In my opinion, I liked the old rules best, and Lost and the Damned is best played old school. build your army from the ground up, and let your warband grow. Think Necromunda on steroides.</p>  <p>The other 3rd edition armies are ok, but do you really think that they would come out with masses of muties, giant muties, and ogryn sized muties if they were really getting rid of them? They will be making thier appearance soon enough.</p>  </div></blockquote>  <p>I'm sorry, but &quot;3 Squads of Mutants&quot; in Apocalypse does not a Lost and the Damned army make.&nbsp; And besides, what if I want to play a game at smaller than 3,000 points, or go to a Tournament?&nbsp; </p>  <p>Well, considering that Forgeworld are the ones who 'came out with' all the mutants, for use with their Siege of Vraks books, I wouldn't hold my breath on that count.&nbsp; Sure, I could buy the Vraks books, but then I still can't use the list in Tournies.&nbsp; </p>  <p><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span> doesn't require any model line, only a set of official rules.&nbsp; Its really not much to ask.&nbsp; I'd much rather use my imagination and convert up my own chaos horde (or use the list as a 'counts as' Adeptus Mechanicus or Genestealer Cult list).&nbsp; </p>  <p>This is a money-maker for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, they just have to notice it.&nbsp; <br />  <br />  </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Umm, one real letter would be more effective that 10,000 signatures in an online petition.&nbsp; Still, I appreciate the gusto.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:10:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Power Cosmic]]></author>
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				<title>RE: Interested in seeing LatD return?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Jester  on  08/20/2007 4:51 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By malfred on 08/20/2007 12:33 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <br />  Have Jervis wake up with the head of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> guardsman in his bed.<br />  <br />  </div></blockquote>  <p><br />  Wouldn't that be heads, on account of them being&nbsp;mutants?<br />  </p>  </div></blockquote>  <br />  You'd have to pick the largest one(s).]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ malfred]]></author>
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				<title>RE: Interested in seeing LatD return?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, start writing letters people!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By The Power Cosmic on 08/20/2007 7:10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  Umm, one real letter would be more effective that 10,000 signatures in an online petition.&nbsp; Still, I appreciate the gusto.</div></blockquote>  <p><br />  Yeah, you're right about snail mail's effectiveness.&nbsp; I think letter writing will also be a part of our efforts.&nbsp; I added <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s address to the petition text.&nbsp; For anyone who's interested:</p>  <p>Games Workshop<br />  Willow Road<br />  Lenton<br />  Nottingham<br />  NG7 2WS<br />  United Kingdom&lt;!-- end Div tag lives on the default.htm files in Templates folder --&gt; </p>  <p>So far, not a bad start...70-something signatures in less than 24 hours and I haven't even advertised on some forums yet.&nbsp; </p>  <p>I've worked at companies that have cut products, services, etc. with the idea that &quot;we'll see if anyone says anything.&quot;&nbsp; By voicing our concerns now rather than later (see Squats), we have a better chance of getting their attention.&nbsp; </p>  <p><br />  </p>]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ gorgon]]></author>
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				<title>RE: Interested in seeing LatD return?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Cruentus on 08/20/2007 6:39 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Grot 6 on 08/20/2007 5:47 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <p>You should wait till after the new mass battle game comes out, then see if your petition is warented.</p>  <p>&nbsp;</p>  <p>In my opinion, I liked the old rules best, and Lost and the Damned is best played old school. build your army from the ground up, and let your warband grow. Think Necromunda on steroides.</p>  <p>The other 3rd edition armies are ok, but do you really think that they would come out with masses of muties, giant muties, and ogryn sized muties if they were really getting rid of them? They will be making thier appearance soon enough.</p>  </div></blockquote>  <p>I'm sorry, but &quot;3 Squads of Mutants&quot; in Apocalypse does not a Lost and the Damned army make.&nbsp; And besides, what if I want to play a game at smaller than 3,000 points, or go to a Tournament?&nbsp; </p>  <p>Well, considering that Forgeworld are the ones who 'came out with' all the mutants, for use with their Siege of Vraks books, I wouldn't hold my breath on that count.&nbsp; Sure, I could buy the Vraks books, but then I still can't use the list in Tournies.&nbsp; </p>  <p><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span> doesn't require any model line, only a set of official rules.&nbsp; Its really not much to ask.&nbsp; I'd much rather use my imagination and convert up my own chaos horde (or use the list as a 'counts as' Adeptus Mechanicus or Genestealer Cult list).&nbsp; </p>  <p>This is a money-maker for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, they just have to notice it.&nbsp; <br />  <br />  </p>  </div></blockquote>  <p><br />  1. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> was in a campaign book. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> declared ex poste facto that they would not suipport anything but pure codexes. </p>  <p>2. Apocalypse is a campaign book. </p>  <p>See what I'm getting at...</p>  <p>(plus I don't have time to spend an entire weekend playing one game).<br />  </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't care.  Just sign the frickin' thing!   <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Agree, paper letters are far, far greater than paper petitions and especially e-petitions.&nbsp; </p>  <p>If all you're willing to do is click a mouse it doesn't show any depth of commitment.&nbsp; </p>  <p>The best thing is to bring your L&amp;D army to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stores and tournaments and SHOW you are playing them.&nbsp; I'll start a new thread with how to do that.</p>  <p><a target=_blank href="http://www.pbase.com/kidkyoto/nurgle"><img    src="http://i.pbase.com/v3/14/562714/2/48345028.PG.jpg"   /></a></p>  <p>DON'T GIVE UP THE FIGHT!</p>]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Kid_Kyoto]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can believe somewhere out there  the tyranidss are swimming through the void on their long journey to the distant Milky Way. I could possibly believe that out there an ancient Eldar empire awaits its fall. I could even believe Necrons killed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>th</span> dinosaurs before returning to the sleep of ages. After all we dont know for sure.<br><br>But I cannot believe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> would listen to its customers.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Orlanth  on  08/23/2007 4:12 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  I can believe somewhere out there  the tyranidss are swimming through the void on their long journey to the distant Milky Way. I could possibly believe that out there an ancient Eldar empire awaits its fall. I could even believe Necrons killed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>th</span> dinosaurs before returning to the sleep of ages. After all we dont know for sure.<br />  <br />  But I cannot believe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> would listen to its customers.</div></blockquote>  <br />  They do listen but only to the fellating howler monkeys who confirm their brilliance in sticking their head up their cloaca.&nbsp; Why would they listen to valid criticism?&nbsp; It might hurt their feelings and make them go back to the howler monkeys online and throw a hissy fit and get re-fluffed.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Dice Monkey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Orlanth on 08/23/2007 4:12 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  But I cannot believe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> would listen to its customers.</div></blockquote>  Cut them some slack - they're hard at work on a solution!&nbsp; When they're finished they won't not listen to any of their customers ever again!<br />  <br />]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Orlanth on 08/23/2007 4:12 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br />  But I cannot believe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> would listen to its customers.</div></blockquote>  <br />  They think they do.&nbsp;&nbsp;But they misinterpret them.&nbsp; Witness the daemon codex and invalidation of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span>.<br />]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Signed it and sent a contribution.</p>  <p>I doubt it'll make much of a difference after the train wreck that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> just dropped on Chaos vets.&nbsp; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> clearly has decided to 1) diss conversions and 2) target 10-year-old brats with wealthy parents.&nbsp; Shame.</p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ People complained that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> did away with vortex grenades and how good they used to be. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> brings back vortex grenades and people still complain.<br><br>People complained <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> did not make plastic baneblades, now <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> does and people complain nobody will buy them.<br><br>People complained that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> should make a version of epic for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> makes <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> and people complain that they wont play and its a money making skeme..<br><br>People complain that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> does not look after its vets so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> gives them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> so now people complain <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> should actually be trying to get newer players.<br><br>Is it anywonder <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> closed their forums?  What started out as a place for people to talk about the game and share idieas turned into a whine fest with the majority of poster ech thinking they could improve some aspect of the hobby.  The poster were delusioned enough to think people agreed with them just cos the other poster shared the same views.  The problem with this was that the MAJORITY of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> customers dont bother with the forums all that much]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:29:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ beef]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br><div   >People complained that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> should make a version of epic for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> makes <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> and people complain that they wont play and its a money making skeme..</div  ><br><br>I don't ever remember hearing about epic for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>.<br><br>And a lot of veterans are excited about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>.<br>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:45:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ basically <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> that we could play quickly like epic and use all the superheavies/titan/flyers  like epic +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>APOC</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:48:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Like I said, I don't remember hearing anything about people wanting that.<br><br>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:11:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By beef  on  08/24/2007 9:29 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  People complained that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> did away with vortex grenades and how good they used to be. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> brings back vortex grenades and people still complain.<br />  <br />  People complained <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> did not make plastic baneblades, now <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> does and people complain nobody will buy them.<br />  <br />  People complained that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> should make a version of epic for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> makes <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> and people complain that they wont play and its a money making skeme..<br />  <br />  People complain that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> does not look after its vets so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> gives them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> so now people complain <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> should actually be trying to get newer players.<br />  <br />  Is it anywonder <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> closed their forums?  What started out as a place for people to talk about the game and share idieas turned into a whine fest with the majority of poster ech thinking they could improve some aspect of the hobby.  The poster were delusioned enough to think people agreed with them just cos the other poster shared the same views.  The problem with this was that the MAJORITY of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> customers dont bother with the forums all that much</div></blockquote>  <br />  Yeah!&nbsp; People begged games workshop to make their codex suck, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> listened. &nbsp; People asked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> to make a large expensive swathe of their models unplayable and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> listened!&nbsp;&nbsp; People begged them to invalidate their list they spent hundreds of dollars on so they can't play at tournaments and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> listened.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:26:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dice Monkey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yes with good models and broken rules.. I would love them to be the new cheese.. come Gav, alessio you can do it... ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:13:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think DiceMonkey is being ironical. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:38:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By malfred on 08/24/2007 11:11 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  Like I said, I don't remember hearing anything about people wanting that.<br />  <br />  </div></blockquote>  <p><br />  <br />  Well you never hear anything nowadays, what with my man juice filling your ears up.</p>  <p>@ DIce monkey&nbsp;, I have heard all these wants at various points.&nbsp; Obviously they dont turn out to evrybodies expectations, but you cant please everybody which is why&nbsp;&nbsp;Jervais sleeps better at night knowing he has given all those so called intelligent vets the finger.</p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:50:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good night, everybody!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:00:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ EDIT: Sorry, fellas.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:05:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Where's the mods in this pee-pee soaked heck hole?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:13:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd like to see all the rabble-lists get their own codex, or, barring that, all the rabble-lists being in one codex (Lost and the Damned, Genestealer Cult, Rogue Psyker Cult, etc).&nbsp; They are supposedly the most common opponent for the Imperium, after all (and nothing says fun like a Genestealer Cult coming to full flower only to realize that they're in the path of an Ork WAAAAAGH).<br />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:40:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Can we keep this family friendly?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:56:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Kid_Kyoto  on  08/25/2007 7:56 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  Can we keep this family friendly?</div></blockquote>  Thanks for the reminder, Jester and KK.<br />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:02:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Kid_Kyoto  on  08/25/2007 7:56 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  Can we keep this family friendly?</div></blockquote>  Sorry, sorry.&nbsp; I meant to say Genestealer &quot;Clown Party&quot;, not Genestealer &quot;C-word&quot;. <br />  <br />  Remember kids, Orks painted red are fans of the Klown Party of Speek!<br />  <br />  <br />  Yeah, I'm drunk.<br />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:50:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Iorek  on  08/25/2007 9:50 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By Kid_Kyoto  on  08/25/2007 7:56 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  Can we keep this family friendly?</div></blockquote>  Sorry, sorry.&nbsp; I meant to say Genestealer &quot;Clown Party&quot;, not Genestealer &quot;C-word&quot;. <br />  <br />  Remember kids, Orks painted red are fans of the Klown Party of Speek!<br />  <br />  <br />  Yeah, I'm drunk.<br />  </div></blockquote>  <br />  A little early for the work-week, eh?<br />  <br />  I still like the idea of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> &quot;counts as&quot; invasion into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> run tournaments--<br />  every <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> player uses their army with a different set of rules. The plan<br />  could backfire, however. A &quot;counts as&quot; invasion could be spun as &quot;hey, look! our<br />  rules are working! Your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LATD</span> aren't useless after all!&quot;]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey I'll do my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> as zombie lost and damned for Games Day Beijing!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:25:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Posted By beef  on  08/25/2007 3:50 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span><br />  <br />  <p>&nbsp;which is why&nbsp;&nbsp;Jervais sleeps better at night knowing he has given all those so called intelligent vets the finger.</p>  </div></blockquote>  <br />  No that is because certain people give him a reach around why his head is wedged up his rear exploring inner space. Twice a year he removes his head a new codex comes out and all the howler monkeys will talk about how it is the hope diamond even though it looks, smells, and taste like guano his work being done he goes back to exploring his own prostate until the next time he has an urgent bowel movement..<br />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:36:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Drunk!<br><br>um...like, a heretic would be. Who'd be fighting space marines. Yeah. <br><br>Drunk!]]></description>
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