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APOC Sheet Pics @ BoLS

Boss Salvage — GMT

BAM BAM BAM

Thanks to Bell of Lost Souls for these pics. Now to check them out!

- Salvage

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Mithrax — GMT

Sigh

I can hear my wallet crying.

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Jester — GMT

Saved. I need this book.

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AgeOfEgos — GMT

Cool, thanks!

Tide of Spawn really really really blows.

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NinjaRay — GMT

This looks Awesome. Apoc looks to be the coolist thing GW has done in quite a while.

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Da Boss — GMT

Yeah, I was thinking that.Edit: Ah, true to his name, ninja has ninjaposted me. That was to AgeofEgos. As in, I was thinking that Tide of Spawn sucked.
It's visually impressive, but I'd use different spawn models to the new ones.
The necron phalanx thing is great, it's like something you'd read in a piece of fiction. I can just imagine the response "Focus fire on the South East Monolith!Bring it down! We must break the chain!"

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tkdarktrooper — GMT

While at work, I did a sneak peek at the BoLS page at the datasheets. Not only do Chaos get their own sheets, they also can use Imperial datasheets as well. If you look at the LineBreaker datasheet, it states that through Apoc rules, Chaos can use Imeprial datasheets.

For me: Renegade Basilisk Batteries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Freakin' Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Boss Salvage — GMT

@ Chaos thieving Impy datasheets - Yessssssssssssssssssss

@ Cron shroud - You see the points for that though? 250 + the points of the liths involved. Though it does start the liths off table in case you don't go first, and plonks them down wherever in front of your boys to protect your 50 destroyers from lashings and warriors from krak missile instant death, and engages the triangle of psyker death / WWB fun ... But that -1S thing is money, very cool.

@ Masters of the Chapter - Wow is that hard to get them on the table, I would have thought you could nab them individually for their abilities. But aye, one mega squad I suppose.

Also a fan of the basilisk marker shots.

- Salvage

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Tazok — GMT

I think it's weird how the rule release info. is getting leaked lately. Can't really look at the sheets in depth now, but thanks for posting them.

And now a random fact about Vin Diesel . . .

Vin Diesel invented the Apocalypse expansion after Jervis Johnson begged him to create an army list for his slowed son, who couldn’t figure out what a meltagun looked like.

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Jester — GMT

That's the Tazok we know and love!

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ElvenGravy — GMT

nice find! i already feel poor...

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stonefox — GMT

Hahahaha I can't stop laughing at the slowed short bus Hammerheads. Guess someone forgot to tell the camera guys to turn off the flower icon in the digicam and use zoom instead.

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CaptKaruthors — GMT

Nice. I can't wait!

Capt K

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Anglacon — GMT

Downloadable PDF versions:

http://www.fantasybattles.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=687&pid=3045&st=0&#entry3045

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Therion — GMT

Eldar Cloudstrike Squadron is the craziest thing I've seen in a while. All Eldar Falcons suddenly turn into flyers, gain unlimited movement for that turn, and naturally park right next to all of the enemy squads. You now need 6's to hit them unless you got AA mounts and can't attack them in CC at all. Like they weren't hard enough to destroy before. Next turn all the cargo disembarks and attacks you, and Falcons fire with Pulse "Lances". I love it.

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NinjaRay — GMT

At Therion: Well GW did try and make the Cloudstrike Squadron fair and balanced because you HAVE to buy Holo Fields. I mean, come on, who uses those.

I think it’s hilarious that you are required to use Holo Fields, because there is like two whole players in the world that don’t use them. Next they will say you can’t use a SM battle Company unless all the marines have Power Armor. Woot!

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The Crawling Chaos — GMT

Do you have to paint the Imperial Fist Tank Company yellow? GW needs a thesaurus.

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The Power Cosmic — GMT

I kept reading it as "Emperor's First Tank Company" as in made by Playskool. The perfect gift for your baby's first birthday!

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Hellfury — GMT

Well thanks to Anglacon, we know that the vindicator line breaker squadron costs $95 instead of $120.

Jesus....I am going to go soooooo broke.

The embargo has been lifted.

This autarch must be screaming because he cant reach the bit of toilet paper that stuck to the tip of his lance to releive his hemorrhoids.... He should buy an inflatable donut for the seat of his jetbike.

Remove that stupid piece of toilet paper and my shining spear exarch has a new longer penis envy weapon.

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venkh — GMT

This autarch must be screaming because he cant reach the bit of toilet paper that stuck to the tip of his lance to releive his hemorrhoids.... He should buy an inflatable donut for the seat of his jetbike.

Hi eyeballs are probably like raisins after hurtling along a 400 mph without a helmet on. That would explain the agonised expression.

I really hope he comes with a helmet option...

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Xerxes — GMT

I found a better quality pic of the Autarch. Seems like the final sculpt has sunglasses to protect the eyes.

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Anglacon — GMT

LOL... so you guys pretty much think the model looks like this then:

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stonefox — GMT

Posted By Xerxes on 08/24/2007 4:52 AM
I found a better quality pic of the Autarch. Seems like the final sculpt has sunglasses to protect the eyes.

Jeremy Clarkson doesn't approve of jetBIKES for middle-aged Autarchs, mister!

Anglacon - Yeah...

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Scottywan82 — GMT

I have a question from this link. WHY WOULD YOU EVER BUY A TERMINUS? I know how slim the odds of four ones is, but for the love of GOD. What a useless tank.

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Ozymandias — GMT

Quick, some Math Hammer geek* figure out what the chances of 4 1's out of 5 dice are.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

*by geek I mean really smart statistics guy

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Wayfarer — GMT

It has less to do with the overcharged lazerbeamguns and more to do with looking like it was made by stupid orks. And I don't mean that orks in general are stupid (even though they are) but an ork who is considered stupid even by his own race of idiots.

Hmm lemme just fire my gun into the back of my other gun for a SUPER LASER!

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NinjaRay — GMT

Photo Shop for the WIN! Now I want that Autarch.

As for the Terminus LR, yeah it's silly, but it does fire 5 Las cannon shots a turn. That's kinda beefy, however it does look lame. So I expect to have to fight them all the time. And have arguements over how all the Las cannons can't see the target the "LRT" is shooting at. Fun Fun Fun.

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tkdarktrooper — GMT

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/24/2007 11:03 AM
Quick, some Math Hammer geek* figure out what the chances of 4 1's out of 5 dice are.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

*by geek I mean really smart statistics guy

the chances of rolling 4 1's out of five dice are 1 out of 7,776, which is a 0.000127% chance. The chances of getting five 1's on five dice [just to let you know, I have gotten 7 1's on 8 dice before, making crappy WBB rolls] is 1 out of 46,656, which is a really weird number.

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keichi246 — GMT

RE: The Terminus.

Actually - it's not hopeless. I know what I would try doing, though...

1) Trim the dangling power cables off the singleton lascannon. (who puts power connections where they can be shot off, anyways!)
2) "flip" the sponson mount so it is upside down, and then mount the lascannon below it. It looks like it should work, which would give both weapons a 180 degree sweep.

Considering the Land Raider has no suspension or ground clearance to speak of - the fact the gun's ground clearance is negligible as well is nothing to worry about...
It'll also make a dandy lawn mower!

If that doesn't work, I'd remove the top sensor pod over the lascannons and mount the third lascannon there, with the sensor pod on it's side next to it.

Of course - the odds of me buying one of these to play with is rather slim, but hey....

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Ozymandias — GMT

1/7776 isn't too bad. I'll take those odds for not destroying my Landraider terminus. The rules are still vague about what it can target though...

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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puree — GMT

Posted By tkdarktrooper on 08/24/2007 1:00 PM

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/24/2007 11:03 AM
Quick, some Math Hammer geek* figure out what the chances of 4 1's out of 5 dice are.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

*by geek I mean really smart statistics guy

the chances of rolling 4 1's out of five dice are 1 out of 7,776, which is a 0.000127% chance. The chances of getting five 1's on five dice [just to let you know, I have gotten 7 1's on 8 dice before, making crappy WBB rolls] is 1 out of 46,656, which is a really weird number.

4 1's in 5 dice is 25/7776 (I think you forgot to account for how many combinations of 4*1 there is)

5 1's on 5 dice is 1/7776

1/46656 is 6 1's on 6 dice.

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Drake_Marcus — GMT

Posted By Boss_Salvage on 08/23/2007 11:38 AM
@ Masters of the Chapter - Wow is that hard to get them on the table, I would have thought you could nab them individually for their abilities. But aye, one mega squad I suppose.

Also a fan of the basilisk marker shots.

- Salvage

I bet the Masters of the Chapter aren't a fan of the basilisk marker shots.

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ubermosher — GMT

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/24/2007 1:30 PM
1/7776 isn't too bad. I'll take those odds for not destroying my Landraider terminus. The rules are still vague about what it can target though...

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Sounds like its specialty is a Super Heavy/Titan killer.

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Ozymandias — GMT

I meant the rules are vague about what the different turrets can see. the turrets in front block the turrets in back.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

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insaniak — GMT

Posted By Ozymandias on 08/24/2007 4:21 PM
I meant the rules are vague about what the different turrets can see. the turrets in front block the turrets in back.

Nope, by the rules, sponson weapons have their 200-ish degree fire arc, regardless of whether or not the model is actually physically up to the job.

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Heavygear — GMT

While I am excited about the release of the Apoc rules, I think I see a mistake on the Emperor's Fist rules sheet. It says "All tanks in the squadron must deploy within 6" on the command tank."

Its kind of hard to put 9 tanks within 6" of the command tank. I think it should have been "All tanks must deploy within 6" of each other." as in the Basilisk Company Rules.

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Mithrax — GMT

Posted By Heavygear on 08/25/2007 6:28 AM

While I am excited about the release of the Apoc rules, I think I see a mistake on the Emperor's Fist rules sheet. It says "All tanks in the squadron must deploy within 6" on the command tank."

Its kind of hard to put 9 tanks within 6" of the command tank. I think it should have been "All tanks must deploy within 6" of each other." as in the Basilisk Company Rules.

As it reads, a squadron is 3 vehicles. If it's a squadron alone, then it's no prob.

If you use the whole company, then it's within 24" of the Company Command tank. 9 Tanks within 2 feet of one vehicle at deployment only? Works fine.

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cuda1179 — GMT

I think that you guys are doing your math wrong for the landraider terminus. The chance of an overload is 1 in 648. Multiply the chances of any three lascannons roling a 1 by the chances of either of the other two roling a one.

(1/6)(1/6)(1/6)(1/3)= 1/648

So, if you fire every turn with a terminus, you should over heat once in every 108 games.

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Jezza — GMT

which will happen 80% of the time

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yakface — GMT

"All Falcons must have the holo-fields upgrade."

Well, duh.

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Ahtman — GMT

I'm afraid it's not as simple as just multiplying like that cuda. I was thinking that using a Bernoulli Trial formula might work in this situation.

The Tau entries, while interesting, don't seem as robust as the others at the moment.

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Arstahd — GMT

Posted By cuda1179 on 08/25/2007 9:40 AM

I think that you guys are doing your math wrong for the landraider terminus. The chance of an overload is 1 in 648. Multiply the chances of any three lascannons roling a 1 by the chances of either of the other two roling a one.

(1/6)(1/6)(1/6)(1/3)= 1/648

So, if you fire every turn with a terminus, you should over heat once in every 108 games.

That's still not right.

Total permutations with 5 dice: 6 x 6 x 6 x 6 x 6 = 7776

With all ones: 1 / 1 / 1 / 1 / 1 = 1

With 4 ones and the first die something else (2-6) : X / 1 / 1 / 1 / 1 = 5

With the second : 1 / X / 1 / 1 / 1 = 5

Third : = 5

Fourth : = 5

Fifth : = 5

In total there are 26 possible combinations out of 7776 with four or more ones. Roughly 1 in 299 or 0.33% chance.

Why even bother making a rule that almost never has a chance of occuring. Everything about the design of the Terminus stinks. From the amaturish model concept to the pointless special rule.

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puree — GMT

edit- nevermind you corrected it

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Ghaz — GMT

Why even bother making a rule that almost never has a chance of occuring.

For the time that it does occur.

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mikhaila — GMT

So that people with poor math skills fielding one will worry needlessly.

So that the opponent can pray tot he chaos gods for that one in 299 chance.

So that when it does happen, you can laugh for 10 minutes, and tell stories about it for years.

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Hans — GMT

Interesting bit in the Tank and Artillery Company entries..... They specify forge-world models and rules as being valid.
Salamanders are valid in the Arty company.
Exterminators, Vanquishers and Executioners are valid in the tank company.

Interesting, and I wonder how deep that rabbit hole goes.

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cuda1179 — GMT

never mind, I am an idiot.