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but I am pretty sure the answer is no. If they could fire into a close combat, they would have special rules specifically allowing that, like Skaven. I am not aware of any special rules for blunderbusses that would let them fire into a close combat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/216916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/216916.page GMT
If units are prevented from shooting into close combat, CD's definitely need a rule that supersedes that, stating that they can.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/216997.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/216997.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217479.page GMT
Would have to check the stone thrower rules to see if they are allowed to partially cover combat given they have an otherwise legal target they are shooting at.

However, I see this as more of a loophole that is being abused and would say it shouldnt be so.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217618.page GMT WD - could just envision them getting Unseer Lurkered into a 90 degree angle at two or three blocks of enemy infantry tied up with expendable Hobgoblins...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217681.page GMT CC. In that case, you roll for each model under the template- and the one under the hole is hit automatically- regardless of whose side they are on. That is the joy of the scatter die.

Blunderbusses cannot fire into close combat either, and they neither use a template nor do their shots scatter.

Now, they do have that 15" zone of effect, so I suppose it it possible to fire at a unit right in front of them, and have the shots affect a unit behind that one, which might be in close combat. In that case I'd be willing to allow hits against any models in the zone. I'd be equally happy to dice off for it. But I'd call shenanigans if they were to aim at a close combat, intentionally.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/217708.page GMT
Just shooting the template into combat is completely wrong.
O, and they are a template shot and would follow the template rules about hitting models (15 in deep, wide as the unit template).

I would probably call shenanigans in both cases.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218093.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218093.page GMT FAQ saying specifically that Chaos Dwarf blunderbusses (blunderbi?) cannot fire at a unit in close combat (claiming specifically that only skaven can fire into close combat)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218147.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218147.page GMT CC. Templates are a bit different and have special rules. However, the BB is not a template and so may not shoot models in CC as it has no provision allowing it to override the general shooting restrictions. So, you would look at any units in the zone and then target models not in CC, hitting them with shots. Unless the BB has a rule negating the need for LOS, the shooter would additionally need to see any valid targets.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218355.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218355.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218366.page GMT LOS restrictions:

"Any model within this is a potential target and hit on a 4+. The only exceptions are models behind extremely substantial cover such as a hill or a building."

Now, it would seem that they need an initial valid target (since it doesn't say they don't) but after that the 'fire zone' kicks in. Since special rules trump general and the "only exceptions" are laid out, every body else gets hit on a 4+. Even in combat!

Absent an errata disguised as an FAQ, that is some solid, albeit short ranged, shooting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218489.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218489.page GMT
Q: Can you fire Chaos Dearf Blunderbusses when there is a friendly unit in combat with the enemey in the Zone of Fire?

A:No, Only Skaven can fire when there is a chance of hitting their own units. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/205934/218682.page GMT