That, and for some reason women don't seem to get as obsessive with hobbies as men do,

You've obviously never seen my Mother or Grandmother when they start a new hobby... Women can be every bit as obsessive as men. They just tend to be obsessive about different things.

You don't hear about excessive knitting breaking apart family relationships.

I mean no offense here, but if you are going to talk about the subject, you need to turn off the "all or nothing" switch. It is a question of degrees, not "OMG all womyns hate the 40k becaose thay dun like the menz!"

Women can play Warhammer 40k too, but seem to much less than men. We are discussing the differences of degrees, not whether or not they can.

Actually, that's pretty much the reason my mother left her last husband. He objected to her spending too much time knitting, and not enough time with him, and told her to stop it or leave. So she left.

On the other hand, I can't recall coming across a single case of wargaming breaking up a relationship... although I have no doubt that it's happened somewhere.

Again, all I'm saying is that it's not the competition, specifically, that keeps girls away from wargaming. It's simply a general lack of interest in strategy based games.

Where you got the idea that I was suggesting it was anything to do with not liking men, I have absolutely no idea.


Er... ok. Maybe you just missed the middle of my post then, in between the parts you quoted.

Saying your grandmother gets obsessed with hobbies is of no use, since I stated that some can. However, pointing out what about her personality sets her apart from the majority of women who don't get obsessed, that would be useful.

rryannn wrote:my girlfriend wants to learn how to play 40k. i asked here if she was serious, and she said yes... I might be the luckiest man alive.

And given that the most likely motive for guys wanting more girls in the hobby is so that they can spend more time looking at something more pleasant than the standard male gamer (without having to take time away from gaming), I don't really thing political correctness as a goal is even in the same paddock as this discussion.

Never in my life have I ever gone into a 'sweaty funk-filled gaming store'. These places mustn't exist in Sydney Australia.

It's kind of like why I see people playing sports like kickball.
I wondered about it until I realized-- it's co-ed. Of course
that's why people play!

Likewise for gaming groups. More people playing = more variety = better gaming group. More women playing means the group becomes a little less of a 'boys only' club, and the boys tend to act a little less like monkeys. Most guys, unless there's alcohol involved, tend to behave better in mixed groups ... Fewer farting competitions and slightly more regular grooming can only be a good thing for any gaming club. The chest-beating and rabid ogling dies down once girls become a regular fixture instead of an oddity.

Noble as this is, why must all activities have equal representation?

and being told they need to fill their monthly quota of women members because my 'socio-economics' diploma says so- is on the opposite extreme and as badly heavy handied.

Shadow Scorpion wrote:If a woman is interested in wargaming and turns up for a game, I'm guessing she's wants the same respect and eye contact above the neck that any male gamer would get from you