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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello everyone, I recently decided to begin work on an ork army to defeat my friends tyranids army and to also be an all around good list. I am really new to orks so I would really appreciate some help and advice with analysing my list to make it better.<br /> <br /> First here's my list:<br /> <br /> 2,000 orks<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> <br /> Big Mek - burna, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span><br /> -105<br /> <br /> Warphead<br /> -85<br /> <br /> ELITES<br /> <br /> Ork Kommandos - 15 commandos, 2 burnas, boss snikrot<br /> -265<br /> <br /> TROOPS<br /> <br /> Ork Boyz - 30 boyz, shootas, 3 big shootas, nob, power klaw, bosspole<br /> -235<br /> <br /> Ork Boyz - 30 boyz, shootas, 3 big shootas, nob, power klaw, bosspole<br /> -235<br /> <br /> Ork Boyz - 30 boyz, shootas, 3 rokkits, nob, power klaw, bosspole<br /> -250<br /> <br /> Ork Boyz - 30 boyz, shootas, 3 rokkits, nob, power klaw, bosspole<br /> -250<br /> <br /> Ork Boyz - 30 boyz, shootas, 3 rokkits, nob, power klaw, bosspole<br /> -250<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> <br /> Stormboyz - 20 Stormboyz, nob, power klaw, bosspole<br /> <br /> 1 deffkopta - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Big Shoota, bigbomm<br /> <br /> So that's my list, I was going for an actual green tide because I'd like to see it on the battle field. I'm not sure about whether to keep snikrot in there or not, so if anybody sees any better units that good go in this army please say them. I'm also trying to prepare this list for 5th edition because assuming the release date is true, I probably won't have it all painted util the summer anyways. Now here's my friends tyranid list:<br /> <br /> Tyranids army - 2,000 points <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Broodlord w/ genestealer retinue x7, Retinue has scy. talons and implant attack <br /> <br /> Elites <br /> -Lictor x2 <br /> -Warrior Brood - 3 winged w/ deathspitters <br /> -Three warriors on foot w/ 2 deathspitters and 1 venom cannon. <br /> <br /> <br /> Troops <br /> -25 genestealers split into 3 units, about 8 have extended carapace/scything talons<br /> -16 hormagaunts <br /> -3 ripper swarms<br /> <br /> Fast Attack <br /> -6 Raveners <br /> <br /> Heavy Support <br /> Carnifex w/ 2 sets of scything talons, regeneration, and other biomorphs affecting skills and toughness<br /> <br /> Carnifex w/ scything talons, crushing claws, mace tail, tusked, extended carapace. <br /> <br /> 1 zoanthrope - synapse, warp blast<br /> <br /> <br /> So as you can see, he has quite a few genestealers. I'm quite sure that if I can get the charge on these small units, they'll be gone and I know that taking 60 shots should do quite well to take them out as well. I have 9 rockets for carnifexes, and I'm sure all of the attacks on the charge from either the stormboyz or kommandos will be enough to really hurt those carnifex. Yay, 187 miniatures to paint. So those are the basics of my plan, I'd really apprciate any help or criticism. <br /> <br /> Please note that I don't want any vehicles in the army.<br /> <br /> Thanks]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ your list looks fine. All you have to do is sit WAY back and shoot. His fex's won't make it in till like turn 4-5, so that's not a big threat. I'd take down his zoanthroap fast so he can't warp blast. lictor's aren't much of a threat, raveners are.<br /> <br /> Target priority should be: Raveners, zoanthropes, Hormagaunts, Broodlord, Genestealers, winged warriors, whatever else. Make sure you set up so if a lictor charges a squad you don't have all your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>los</span> blocked. I'd take an entire piece of terrain over so he can't set his lictor up there, don't leave a spot open for him.<br /> <br /> ~dan]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ sweet list mate]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ orkyboss30000]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think you have the points in the wrong areas there. You need at least 2 squads of 14-15 Lootas. They will make short work of any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(128);'>TMC</span> that gets within Range and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span>. I think the Commandos will be a waist against this army because by the time they can come in the enemy will be long gone your best bet would be infiltrate them and for that you don't need Snickrot. Also without a single effective Venom Cannon in his list you would be a fool not to take a Battle Wagon or Two with Kill Cannons dropping 2 pie plates a turn that can't be stopped is good stuff. <br /> <br /> Also I would consider getting a Warboss on a Bike for mobile combat Power 6-7 S10 Attacks will end most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(128);'>TMCs</span> days before they even begin. <br /> <br /> To do this I would suggest droping an entire Ork Mob, the warphead and make 2 other 25 man. This should give you enough points for the 2 Loota Squads and the Warboss on a Bike. If you want to go further you can Drop some of those storm Boyz (4 should be good) and 10 more Boyz and start buying Battlewagons. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Negativemoney]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks everyone, it's my first ork list.  I'm trying to avoid the use of any vehicles for this list because I don't like them for orks.  Thanks for the compliments on the list as well.  The reason why I'm also taking the kommandos is because I will be using this army against others than just the nids list.  The warphead has already been purchased, mainly because I love the model so I'll be keeping him and I think the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> mek would work with the footsloggin army.  At this point I'd like to know how any of you think this army would do in 5th edition.<br /> <br /> Thanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:09:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ lucas]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also you might want to consider taking the stormboy special character(his name eludes me) vulta boyz dropping right in front of a fast unit like the winged warriors or the raveners on turn 2 and assaulting him would really throw a monkey wrench into his plans and allow you more time to shoot.  though you must understand and expect the vulta boyz to be swamped and die.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:14:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ blackgaurd]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, I have actually taken the cvomplete kommando unit out of my army list and now plan to put in another unit of 20 stormboyz.  I will try zagstruk, though old zogwort is more appealing at this point.  Please keep the suggestions coming, especially on this change to the list.  Are 40 stormboyz better than snikrot's unit?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:03:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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