http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net BT codex states that Helbrecht can take a Command Squad. Helbrecht's entry also says that the Command Squad must take the Furious Charge skill. According to RAW (if I'm reading it correctly) does this mean that I can also use the Command Squad's option to buy a veteran skill? This would allow me to have Furious Charge and Infiltrate.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247563.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247584.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247584.page GMT
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And where does it say that veterans are allowed only one skill? As far as I can tell they're only allowed to buy one with the Special Skills: section of their rules.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247662.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247662.page GMT
The command squad's abilty to buy a skill in it's unit entry is totaly seperate from the one granted in Helbrecht entry. Therefore you're entitled to take both if thats what you want...

No rule limits models to only having one veteran skill, its just that its rare to find any models that can get more than one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247676.page GMT RAW. however, i didn't know if anyone had heard whether or not this was legitimate.

i didn't think it would be too powerful if Helbrecht, his 15-man command squad, and Grimaldus + servitors all got furious charge, infiltrate, and were able to use the 'we hate psykers' vow to possibly charge on the first turn.

or would it?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247745.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247745.page GMT Vets and command squads are only allowed one skill.
Plus the codex : BT was made after the codex for SM.
The same entries in that codex only allow one skill.
The special Hqs in the back like "Shrike's Wing" have all the skills listed they are allowed to take.

I try to look at the rules as to the limit I can take and no more.
Not that the rules are the minimum for the unit and I can add to it.
I hope this helps. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247755.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247755.page GMT it's near 100 points for the skills of a full suad including a chaplian.
and it's a big anti fluff thing if you take Helbrecht he is not going to wait in ilence he's going to charge forward and get into grips with his foe so I think that they shoudn't get both just furious charge ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247788.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/247788.page GMT
But isn't Helbrecht's profile fixed? wouldn't using infiltrate be useless since Helbrecht's retinue must stay with him; and if he can't infiltrate, then they can't.

Otherwise, the retinue could take an extra skill.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/251640.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208020/251640.page GMT