<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "First 1000pt Eldar Army"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net First 1000pt Eldar Army
HQ:
1 Farseer [rune of witnessing, eldritch storm] 85
1 Farseer [rune of witnessing, mind war] 85
(I chose these two to escort my wraithlords)

Elite:
6 Fire Dragons w/ Exarch [Exarch Fire Pike, Exarch Crack Shot] 121

Troops:
10 Dire Avengers 120
11 Dire Avengers 132

Transport:
Wave Serpent [shuriken cannon, TL bright lances] 145

Heavy Support:
Wraithlord [TL Missile Launchers] 140
Wraithlord [TL Bright Lances] 170

Total:998

As I said, any input is appreciated. I also have some additional questions that someone might be able to answer:

Does the Wave Serpent have to be connected to a single infantry unit? Can it be used with any units on the table?

What are the advantage/ disadvantages of having two 5 DA units or one 10 DA unit? What is usually preferable?

Thanks
-pfoh]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262730.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262730.page GMT Re:First 1000pt Eldar Army
HQ:
1 Farseer [rune of witnessing, eldritch storm] 85
1 Farseer [rune of witnessing, mind war] 85
(I chose these two to escort my wraithlords)


You've picked second-rate powers, especially considering the Farseers' lack of mobility (the two powers are a little better on jetbikes). Guide on each would be better; you would use it on your WLs (which should be configured differently, but I'll get to that later).

RoWit is excessive against everything but other Eldar with RoWard. It makes your powers more likely to go off, but with the Farseers' Ld. they don't really need the help, and it also makes their heads more likely to pop. I would drop the RoWit off both and add one RoWard (you'll be glad when you face Chaos, for example).

Elite:
6 Fire Dragons w/ Exarch [Exarch Fire Pike, Exarch Crack Shot] 121


If you're hunting tanks, you don't need the Exarch. He's overkill. The only reason to get an Exarch is to add flexibility in the form of the flamer + CS.

They also need a Falcon to be really reliable.

Troops:
10 Dire Avengers 120
11 Dire Avengers 132


You can only have 10 in a squad. Also, what is their purpose? If you're just filling the compulsory slots, 6-man squads are sufficient (or better yet, jetbikes!)

Transport:
Wave Serpent [shuriken cannon, TL bright lances] 145


Bad config. You need Spirit Stones and (in my experience) VE. Actually, you'd be better off swapping it for a Falcon.

And no, as of 4th ed, you can't just let anyone hop in. You need to associate it with one squad and one squad only. Chekc your rulebook if you're unsure.

Heavy Support:
Wraithlord [TL Missile Launchers] 140
Wraithlord [TL Bright Lances] 170


TL weapons on WLs are absolutely awful. For the same price, 1 ML shot and 1 BL shot, re-rollable vs 2 ML shots and 2 BL shots--the choice is obvious. Swap them around. Also, what secondary armament did you pick? Go dual flamers if you haven't already.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262792.page GMT Re:First 1000pt Eldar Army
HQ:
1 Farseer [rune of warding, guide] 90
1 Farseer [guide] 75

Elite:
6 Harlequin Troupe W/ Shadowseer [Harlequin's Kiss] 162

Troops:
3x5 Dire Avengers 180

Transport (linked with Harlequin Troupe):
Wave Serpent [shuriken cannon, TL bright lances,Spirit Stone, Vectored Engines] 175

Heavy Support:
2xWraithlord [Missile Launcher,Bright Lance, 2xFlamer] 310

Total:992



Here's my reasoning (let me know if it even makes sense)
2x WL with FS as tank hunters
DA as shooting infanty hunters
HT as assaulting infantry hunters w/ high speed support of wave serpent (wave serpent can support tank hunting role of WL's if necessary)

[Edit]
Additional Questions:
Can a unit move in the assault phase even if it is not charging another unit?
What is the "Veil of Tears" power that the Shadowseer has? (the codex is unclear)
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262841.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262841.page GMT First 1000pt Eldar Army
A unit can only move in the assault phase when not assaulting (or consolidating, sweeping, etc.) if a specific rule allows it. Eldar jetbikes (note: a Vyper is not a jetbike, but a vehicle; "Eldar jetbike" refers to the unit type specified in the BGB) can, for instance, but Guardians cannot.

What is it about VoT that you don't understand? Basically, it makes anything that wants to shoot at you pass a test first; if they fail, they don't get to shoot that turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262844.page GMT Re:First 1000pt Eldar Army
1.
Merge 2 of the DA units and link it with the WS

2.
Replace the HT with an assaulting squad like Striking Scorpions or Howling Banshees and link them with the WS.

What do you think?

In regards to VoT, the codex says to see the warlock powers on p20-21. First, on page 20-21 there is nothing regarding this and the warlock powers also dont mention a VoT power.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262857.page GMT First 1000pt Eldar Army
They mean to see the info on Warlock powers regarding "always on" psychic powers. The rules of VoT itself are all in the Harlie rules entry.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262867.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262867.page GMT Re:First 1000pt Eldar Army DA units to make one unit of 10 DAs assigning that to the wave serpent and leave the harlies in]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262874.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262874.page GMT Re:First 1000pt Eldar Army
falcons=delivered squads
FD make great riders, 12" move on the falcon, deployment and 6" melta means dead tanks or squads of high points, low model count units.

if you are not running the harle's behind the WL's, they should be in a falcon, or 10 man strong. although the spotting distance is great, when something sees them, and shoots them, they die.

DA are great as long as you dont expect too much from them. in large squads they can lay the hurting on most troops, but in smaller squads their effectivness really drops off quick.

if you are running WL's as true tank hunters, a EML and BL are your only choice. no twin linked stuff, its just not worth the points on a model that is BS4. also, if you do want to keep both farseers in, give each one fortune, guide, and spirit stones and park all 4 of them in good cover for one of the hardest groups in the game to kill.

or what i do is run a small to mid size squad of guardians with a warlock and upgrade him to a spiritseer. he then has 12" to move around the WL's and have the guardian squad shoot things with the weapon platform. this allows your farseers to be more usefull, or to put them on a bike and make a mess of things for your enemy.

it really seems like you are more catered for a "walking" eldar army, which i think is one of the funnest (its a word!!) ways to play eldar, and if thats the case, you need bigger squads of DA. if you lose 3 guys, they are not scoring and not really doing anything for the rest of the game.

also one of the biggest things eldar have for them is the crazy amount of str6 shots they can lay out. scatter lasers and shruiken cannons can be very good if amassed in numbers.

oh and if you have never heard this, no eldar skimmer should ever touch the field without spirit stones and if a falcon, stones and holo-fields.

movement=alive skimmers.

oh and it doesnt really take a skimmer to park for a turn for assault guys to get the jump on an enemy. falcon moves 12" next to a squad. next turn the harles hop out, assault the squad and the falcon moves off, no extra sitting around required!

heres an army that i think would be cool for you,

farseer\guide\fortune\spirit stones\stones of warding
10 dire avengers\exarch\bladestorm\2x catapults
9 dire avengers\exarch\bladestorm\2x catapults
2x vibro cannons
WraithLord-EML\BL
falcon-s. stones\holofields\s. cannonx2
6x harlequins-5x H. kiss's

that brings you to 977, or 877 if you drop the vibro cannons out.


only 1 farseer\ wraithlord combo because with the re-roll, vibro cannons and the 2 str 8 falcon shots, you should be able to handle most armor at 1000pts. also getting rear armor with 6 str6 shots from the fast falcon will be killer vs other skimmers\ rear armor 10 vehicles. march the DA relativley close so they can focus fire, and the vibro cannons are amazing in smaller games. remember they go through terrain, so they can be completly out of LOS and still get shots off.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/262939.page GMT Re:First 1000pt Eldar Army
The Wave Serpent can only transport those units which specifically mention they can be transported by the Wave Serpent and they must be linked to it in order to use it as a transport. On the other hand, the Falcon can transport any squad with up to 6 infantry units.

Is this correct? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/263331.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/263331.page GMT First 1000pt Eldar Army WG, which the Falcon cannot transport at all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/263495.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/263495.page GMT Re:First 1000pt Eldar Army ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/264879.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209291/264879.page GMT