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eldrad ulthran 210

avatar 155

10 dire avengers 152
exarch with power weapon/blade storm

10 guardians with missle launcher 100

10 guardians with missle launcher 100

10 harlequins 250
all given kisses, shadow seer, no troupe leader

6 fire dragons 116
exarch, fire pike

10 scorpions 212
exarch with claw, shadow strike, stalker


falcon 205
vectored engine, spirit stones, holo fields, star cannon, shuriken cannon

fire prism 180
vectored engine, spirit stones, holo fields, shuriken cannon

fire prism 180
vectored engine, spirit stones, holo fields, shuriken cannon

1870

List edited: Too many points. Where can I drop 20 points for 1850 ( alot of guys play that here), and what can I add for 2k? I was thinking another unit of dire avengers.

Are star engines worth it? I don't think so, but what are your thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264750.page GMT
Fire Dragons are great.

You can do w/o the BL on the falcon. Starcannon, Scatterlaser or Shuricannons are probably better options unless you want to pillbox it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264751.page GMT

What about the rest?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264754.page GMT BL is terrible on the Falcon because you'll have to choose between firing it or the pulse laser if you move. That's very bad.

Could you be a bit more specific with your list? What does the Scorp Exarch have? What does "fully-kitted" imply? etc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264755.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264755.page GMT
People in my club apparently really don't like eldrad, so I might replace with karandras, or asurmen. Does karandras have 7 s9 attacks at initiative 1 or am I combining the rules wrong? And can he join a unit of non-scorpions and infilitrate?\


I guess I'll change the BL to a star cannon :( big noob here.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264758.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264758.page GMT
Is it the case that you'll be hiding the Reapers out of LoS and just using the Exarch's indirect fire? If so, I think it's a waste of points. You'd be better off with another Prism instead, like Tacobake says.

By "really don't like", you mean they think he's uber? Rather unfair of them to ban him in this way. Karandras gets 7 PF attacks when not charging, yes, but only at S8; you don't get to combine the scorp chainsword with the claw, and he doesn't have Crushing Blow or whatever like he used to.

As for the joining/infiltrating thing:

1) He cannot join aspect warriors that aren't scorpions.

2) Exarch powers only transfer to aspect warriors and Autarchs.

3) Even if the unit in question were aspect warriors (say, if he joined a squad of Scorps), he would not be able to give them the benefit of his Infiltration, because there is no way to attach him to them before the battle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264766.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264780.page GMT FD squad. You don't need the firepike and TH; they're overkill. The only worthwhile Exarch is one with a flamer and Crack Shot, to add flexibility.

Alternatively, you could drop the falcon's star cannon down to a shuriken cannon, for exactly enough points. It will spend a lot of time shaken anyway (okay, maybe less than usual with two Prisms in the list to draw fire).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264782.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264782.page GMT

Maybe someone else will hate it in the next 1 hour or so and I'll have some editing to do.


Anyone see any obvious weaknesses or problems?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264788.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209556/264788.page GMT