http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271302.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271341.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271369.page GMT
Even Spear Elf blocks beat the hell out of Ogres. Just take 3 Mages to dispel his magic, RBT's to shoot him, and then just normal crap. HE vs. Ogres is just such a bad matchup for Ogres. I have to work 3x as hard playing against HE with Ogres than I do against most other armies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271388.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271434.page GMT
the white lions who excell against all others lose to ogres 3 wounds
Sword masters strugle against even poitns of ogres for the same reason

Ranked units of spears and phenix guard are your best bet. Small units of sword masters to deal with his msu units of bulls.

Use bolt throwers to knock a guy or so from every unit you can. Dont try to eliminate them with fire, just put them in a position they cant beat you head on.
Then just advance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271542.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271542.page GMT But fear any shooting at sword masters.

Agree with others on RBTs.

5 naked dragon princes are only 150 points. Hold them back (you have a huge charge advantage) and either hit in flank or take out a MSU unit. You have enough armour to save most wounds...

2 tiranoc charriots are 170 points, dual charge, 2d6 st 5 hits 4 st 4 attacks and 4 st 3 attacks. ALWAYS dual charge against the ogres with them...

Otherwise spears can be brutal but remember fear can stuff you up.

ALso I'd go 3 mages, 2 dispel scrolls, 1 staff sorcery (+1 to dispel for +2 with HE bonus.) and the ring that shoots fury of khaine (for more shooty death kill) and silver wand
His magic phase is shut down.
I'd go high elf magic and pump out either fury of khaine (if got it) or curse arrow attraction for your RBTs and then Dispel magic last to stuff up his magic phase even more.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271585.page GMT
If you get first go you get 3 turns magic, shooting and get to charge.... he he]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271586.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/271586.page GMT ASF. For example, a unit of ogres is advancing on your unit. They are faster and so will probably get the charge. Advance unit right in front of ogres but angled so that they charge in and, when you hold and ASF, allow you a flank charge on your next turn or have to reform and slowly move away, allowing you the charge next turn. Win win!

Also, eagles are hilarious for march blocking. Just keep them away from ogre shooting and gnoblars throwing stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/272493.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/272493.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/276800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/210091/276800.page GMT