http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net VC for awhile and in a campaign but my wife wants to use the undead so i decided to go with orcs mainly for one reason. The black orc. I love the model i like the rules and fluff behind them but taking a squad of 24 with full command and sheilds is 384pts. That just seems to be a little too much when i could take a unit of 24 boys at 174pts and then make them big 'uns and thats still only 270 pts.

So i guess my question is taking 2 squads of black orcs a point sink in 1500-2000pt games?

I kinda wanna stick mainly to orcs no goblins or fanatics maybe a rock lobba or some spider riders would be alright.
But having a bunch of night goblins supported by black orcs would be pretty cool too.

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Big 'uns are too expensive. 100pts for the extra upgrades isn't worth it (thats 2 grot bolt throwers!), except that they are able to take magic banners- for the magic banner that adds +1 to dispel dice for each rank bonus (don't have book with me ATM so don't know the name).

If you like orcs (BOs especially) I'd look at 2 BIG (25 models) units of regular orcs (whatever kit out you prefer) with BO general and BO BSB in each, 15 black orcs (throw a mage in there so he won't fail a waaagh test), extra character as you like it, fill rest of army with whatever you want.

I've faced that set up of orcs with extra mage, 2 units of decked out NGs and NG squig hoppers and NG squig herd and giant with my undead at 2250 and I really struggled with the number of harcore units he had....

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They will all need to be able to take a charge and still dish out punishment in the following turns. 15 black orcs will fold to the first calvary charge that hits them.

I would actually suggest leaving them at home. Take more normal boys.

If you really want them take 20 as a center unit so it doesnt get flanked easily (orcs shouldnt get flanked anyways)
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Ill have to test it out and see but i think ill try each of your ideas. Working part time for the FLGS for the win. So ill just get lots of NGS and orks and try lots of combos.
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