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				<title>1500 Pts chaos Marines Back after 2 years of retirement:p</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ After Much inactivity and just resorted to watching games and finally got the codex, here's the armylist i whipped up out of my old experience.<br /> i know there are alot of new things so il accept any constructive criticism, and please dont change the entire army list but wiping out every single unit i have in.<img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> thanks in advance mates.<img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> 1 - Chaos Lord 180ps<br />   - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(101);'>MoS</span>, Blissgiver, Bike, Combi-Melta, Frag/krak/melta bombs<br /> <br /> 2 - Chaos Bikes 185pts<br />   - Icon of Nurgle, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> n <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span><br /> 1 - Chaos Bike Champion<br />   - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span>, Power Weapon frag/krak/melta bombs<br /> <br /> 8 - Raptor Squad 265 pts<br />   - IoS, 2 Melta Guns<br /> 1 - Aspiring Champion<br />   - Pair of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span>, Melta Bombs<br /> <br /> 7 - Plague Marines 289 Pts<br />   - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, 2 Melta Guns,<br /> 1 - Asp.Champ<br />   - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span>, Power Weapon<br /> 1 - Rhino<br />   - Smoke Launchers, Daemonic Possession<br /> <br /> 6 - Noise Marines 185 pts<br />   - Blast Master, 5 sonic blasters<br /> <br /> 6 - Noise Marines 185 pts<br />   - Blast Master, 5 sonic blasters<br /> <br /> 1 - Obliterator 75 pts<br /> <br /> 1 - Obliterator 75 pts<br /> <br /> 1 - Obliterator 75 pts<br /> <br /> <br /> Total: 1498pts]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ enmitee]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Pts chaos Marines Back after 2 years of retirement:p</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Nice list mate, I like the nurgle/slaanesh tough/fast thing ya got goin.  A lot of people say that biker lords are a waste of points, but I think it'll work out nicely with the blissgiver, combi-melta, and the other fast attack to back him up.  <br /> <br /> Other than that, the only things I myself would change is somehow freeing up points for fists on the biker and plague marine champ, but I couldn't tell ya how...  <br /> <br /> Also daemonic possession is kind of pointless on a rhino with nothing more than a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> bolter, use extra armour.<br /> <br /> Good luck to ya ;P]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 May 2008 20:50:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Beerfiend]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ mark of nurgle is not needed on the bikers, but nasty as ever. the problem is that it's wildly expensive which teis up points you could put elsewhere. personally i'd drop the IoN off of the bikers to pick up the powerfist for the champ and then get one more biker.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 May 2008 21:26:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bastirous666]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Pts chaos Marines Back after 2 years of retirement:p</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You have the mark of Nurgle on the plague marines. I don't know if you paid the points or were just listing it from their profile. If it's the former theres some points right there, otherwise sorry for my over sight. I like the list besides that, it seems tough to beat. The only thing, like Beerfiend suggested, is the possession on the rhino. I'd say drop the possession and some minor upgrades on the bikers or Lord to free up some points for more Plague Marines. In 5th edition the transports are supposed to be more survivable but less mobile. So your plague marines will make it across the field to tie up some units but the numbers in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> will help them along to survive to fire on another squad.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 May 2008 22:24:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Typeline]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My only suggestion would be to turn most of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PWs</span> into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PFs</span>.  Your squads can take a beating, but they are going to have trouble returning said beating.<br /> <br /> I am tempted to suggest combining the two units of Noise Marines into one large unit.  While they will put out a decent amount of firepower at 6 men, they will put out an OBSCENE amount at 12 men.  The other reason behind this is the 24" range on the sonic blasters - you are likely going to have to move toward the enemy to get into range, and 6 man squads will die awfully fast.  24" isn't much in a 1500 point game.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 May 2008 00:07:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Blue Orphen]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Pts chaos Marines Back after 2 years of retirement:p</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ahh i see. thanks for the info. so basically with the plague marines and bikes, imma free up some points for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PFs</span>? <br /> i was thinkin to remove the icon of Nurgle but im just afraid of the incoming shooting its gona get. <br /> <br /> <br /> oh <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span> the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> i just wrote that. didnt add any points from it:p<br /> <br /> now my question:<br /> is it ok to find points and add 2 more  noise marines in each squad? to make them 8? the only reason i want this is so i cud keep 2 blast masters.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 May 2008 05:10:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ enmitee]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ the blast masters are useless though, i have no idea why you want them unless it's just for aesthetic purposes. sonic blasters are a better use of points and you'll end up saving 35pts per replacement with one sonic blaster for one blastmaster]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 May 2008 05:41:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bastirous666]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Pts chaos Marines Back after 2 years of retirement:p</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ahh i see. so the point is getting more shots in then? well i honestly, stat wise i found the blast masters pretty cool.<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 May 2008 06:29:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ enmitee]]></author>
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