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Bloodthirster-520
-Dark Insanity, Armor of Khorne

The Blue Scribes-81

Herald of Tzeentch-190
-Standard Bearer, The Great Standard of Sundering

Herald of Tzeentch-115

6 Fleshhounds-210

6 Fleshhounds-210

6 Fleshhounds-210

10 Bloodletters-120

10 Bloodletters-120

10 Bloodletters-120

5 Flamers of Tzeentch-175

5 Flamers of Tzeentch-175]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291357.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291357.page GMT
Also skulltaker should take a juggernatur, for 50 points you get his armour down to 0+, gain 2 S5 attacks, move more so you can charge where you want so its really usefull, and if you planned to join him into a bloodleter units, thats no good since he wont give them hatred]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291410.page GMT
Also, a 5 man Fury unit will probably do more than one more rank of Bloodletters in there somewhere.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291437.page GMT VP).

Add Furies to help with warmachines so the BloodThirster can fight unmolested by the big guns.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/291476.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292044.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292044.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292123.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292123.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292345.page GMT LOS? If they are just for the dispel dice I'd say they should either carry scrolls or the GSS.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292358.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292446.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292446.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292919.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/292919.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/294619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/294619.page GMT WS of 2. In exchange for this, they get BS 4, and the ability to fire D6 str 4 Shots each per turn..... that's 5d6 str 4 shots per unit.... for the same price of flesh hounds.... I'll take two. I also noticed that flames of tzeentch are far more important than a power vortex, and that I really dislike furies. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/294670.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/294670.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/294780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/294780.page GMT


no Bloodcrushers? easily the best unit in the Khornate list...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295041.page GMT OP: That's a nice build. Play it and pray tell your experience with it...


@ General K:Why Tzeench? Because there were Tzeench units in the OP and it's a pretty solid build.
Play a few games with the Bloodcrushers and you'll see that they're not as strong game wise as one might think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295054.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295054.page GMT 3x 16 Bloodletters
2 x 5 Flesh hounds
1 Exalted Daemon
1 Bloodthirster
1 Daemon Prince
8 (now will likely be 12 due to new rules) Bloodcrushers

the Bloodcrushers are unstoppable by my elves; against ym dwarves, well, I can hold for a while but eventually I'll break (generally because he also charges the 3 flyers in as well, but hey)
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Angron: I'm not sure what to say. I haven't played against this kind of list, but it seems to me that the bloodletters are the weakest core demon unit that's available to you. It's not like you care about theme or anything, so why not just drop the bloody things and get something which is hard to avoid? As it stands, I'd say you're going to have a hell of a time against anything with a strong shooting phase and a rough time against really heavy magic; d6 s4 magic missiles love flamers. Also, you don't have a single scroll. This is not so hot in my opinion. That said, I'm not sure what your tzeentch heralds are supposed to be doing; you said that you want them for magic offense, but 8 power dice, does not a casting powerhouse make. Did I miss something about the gifts that you gave them?

In short: I think that your hero choices are sub-par and that you picked the worst core unit in the book to base your army around. T3 and a 5+ ward? With M5 which can be march-blocked and is not skirmishing? Dude, that's a very squishy 200 point unit. The only way you're going to get into a favorable combat with those blocks is if one of two things happens: 1) you opponent brought no shooting/is an idiot or 2) your fast elements are simultaneously able to tie up the oppositions magic, shooting and march blocking capabilities via either combat or target saturation (there can only be so many cannons in any list).

Things I like: The bloodthirster is a bitch and I will kick anyone who brings one to the table in the balls and/or make them use the frenzy rule on that stupid hunk of pewter. Also, flesh hounds are good, and flamers are unbelievable!

Cheers,
ED]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295263.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295263.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295286.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295286.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295442.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295442.page GMT
I also added the blue scribes, as they will feed power dice to my heralds, making sure that my magic phase gets better exponentially depending on how heavy my opponents magic phase is.

I also took immortal fury off the bloodthirster to make enough points for the great banner of sundering. While it decreases his effectiveness, it increases the effectiveness of the rest of my army. I'm debating exchanging the armor of khorne for the immortal fury, depending on how safe I can keep him from missile fire.... I'm gonna play it this way the first couple of games and he's not getting hit by lots of regular missile fire, I'll switch the armor of khorne to immortal fury. My first game with these guys will be on friday.... I'll let yall know how it goes]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295873.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211685/295873.page GMT