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				<title>new chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thinking about making a space marine army what do you think<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Master, power weapon, stormbolter, artificer armour, Admantium mantle 150<br /> Command squad, 5 marines, plasma gun, Apothecary, standard bearer, champion, terminator honours(for seargent), Razorback. 240<br /> <br /> Chaplain Reclusiarch, bolt pistol, jump pack 106<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> 10 Terminators, 2 assault cannons, 2 chainfists 450<br /> Dreadnought, smoke launchers, Extra armour113<br /> 10 veterans, 3 lightning claws, 2 powerfists, 3 power weapons 320<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 10 scouts, Heavy bolter 135<br /> 5 scouts, 4 sniper rifles, missile launcher 105<br /> 10 marines, heavy bolter, plasma gun 165<br /> <br /> Fast attack<br /> 10 assault marine squad, 2 plasma pistols,Terminator honours(seargeant) 1 power weapon 255<br /> <br /> Heavy support<br /> 10 devastators, 2 heavy bolters, 1 missile launcher, 1 lascannon 235<br /> vindictator, extra armour, hunter killer missile, pintle mounted storm bolter, smoke launchers 158<br /> land raider, extra armour, hunter killer missile, pintle mounted storm bolter, smoke launchers253<br /> <br /> overall2905 points<br /> any suggestions for a chapter name i was thinking winter swords <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 May 2008 14:08:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:new chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Master, power weapon, stormbolter, artificer armour, Admantium mantle 150 <br /> <br /> Ok this guy really really needs an Iron Halo, you have already spent a fair few points on him so instead of the mantle bring a halo.  Because if he gets axed by a powerfist at least you get a save first, currently he is going to be ganked by anyone with a power weapon.  Also give him Terminator Honours.<br /> <br /> Command squad, 5 marines, plasma gun, Apothecary, standard bearer, champion, terminator honours(for seargent), Razorback. 240 <br /> <br /> First what weapons does the Rhazorback have, and what upgrades?  Second if your going to buy a veteran sergeant than I suggest giving him at least a power weapon but preferably a Fist.  Also you could put power weapons on your upgrade characters in here too, though that would add another 70pts or so to the squad.<br /> <br /> Chaplain Reclusiarch, bolt pistol, jump pack 106 <br /> <br /> Give him Terminator Honours otherwise he is perfect.<br /> <br /> Elites <br /> 10 Terminators, 2 assault cannons, 2 chainfists 450 <br /> <br /> Big squad, very expensive but also really tough under most circumstances.  If big termie squads are the way you want to go then this is great.  I might normall recommend you split this into 2 squads, but you already have three elites.<br /> <br /> Dreadnought, smoke launchers, Extra armour113 <br /> <br /> Good nothing really to make this better<br /> <br /> 10 veterans, 3 lightning claws, 2 powerfists, 3 power weapons 320 <br /> <br /> You have way more weapons than is allowed in this squad.  You can give one guy an Fist or Claw, and one other a power weapon.  Also you have no Vet Sarg?  You should have on with a power weapon.  Also you dont specify what skill they have.<br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 10 scouts, Heavy bolter 135 <br /> <br /> ok, good cheep scoring unit, i like it.<br /> <br /> 5 scouts, 4 sniper rifles, missile launcher 105 <br /> this unit is ok, but having used the exact same loadout I can tell you that the sniper rifles are wasted in conjunction with the missile launcher.<br /> <br /> 10 marines, heavy bolter, plasma gun 165<br /> <br /> For the love of god man, buy some veteran sergeants with fists!!!!!!!!!!! <br /> <br /> Fast attack <br /> 10 assault marine squad, 2 plasma pistols,Terminator honours(seargeant) 1 power weapon 255 <br /> <br /> Fine, I personally like the Fist more than a straight up power sword, but thats mostly a personal preference thing.<br /> <br /> Heavy support <br /> 10 devastators, 2 heavy bolters, 1 missile launcher, 1 lascannon 235 <br /> <br /> No, no, no, no, no!!!  You really dont want to mix and match weapons like this.  Bring three or four of all the same weapon or a mix of similar weapons (lascannons and Missile Launchers for example) but never bring two anti infantry weapons and two anti tank weapons in the same squad.<br /> <br /> vindictator, extra armour, hunter killer missile, pintle mounted storm bolter, smoke launchers 158 <br /> <br /> The pintle and the Hunter killer are useless upgrades, remove them.  Otherwise your good to go.<br /> <br /> land raider, extra armour, hunter killer missile, pintle mounted storm bolter, smoke launchers253 <br /> <br /> Same thing here.  Get rid of the Hunter killler and the pintle and your ready to go.  However you might want to look into a Crusaider instead.  Its got better transport capacity and way better weapons.<br /> <br /> Overall I would say you have spent way too many points on useless upgrades and expensive units.  Right now <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> is more about quantity over quality of troops.  And while most of your stuff will hit really hard, your army is still just normal space marines.  I would suggest removing the Veterans all together, splitting the terminators into two 5 man squads.  Getting the Tacticle squad a Rhino.  Bumping the command squad with some more power weapons and warm bodies.  Put the command squad in the Land Raider and change out the scouts for another squad of Tacticle marines,  If your intent on Bringing Devastators I would remove the vindicator and bring two squads of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span>.  Both at 6-men.  One with Heavy Bolters and the other with lascannons/missile launchers.  So your list would look something like this<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Master 156<br /> Power weapon, Bolt Pistol, Iron Halo, Artificer Armour, Terminator Honours <br /> <br /> Comand Squad (9) 270ish<br /> Veteran Sergeant w/power fist<br /> Company champion<br /> Standard bearer w/power weapon<br /> Apothecary w/power weapon<br /> Flamer<br /> Meltagun<br /> <br /> Reclusiarch 121<br /> Jump Pack<br /> Bolt pistol<br /> Terminator Honours<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Terminators (5) 225<br /> Assault Cannon<br /> Chainfist<br /> <br /> Terminators (5) 225<br /> Assault Cannon<br /> Chainfist<br /> <br /> Dreadnought 113<br /> Extra armour<br /> Smoke<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> Tacticle squad (10) 200<br /> Veteran sergeant w/power fist<br /> Flamer<br /> Meltagun<br /> <br /> Rhino 58<br /> Smoke<br /> Extra Armour<br /> <br /> Tacticle squad (10) 200<br /> Veteran sergeant w/power fist<br /> Flamer<br /> Meltagun<br /> <br /> Rhino 58<br /> Smoke<br /> Extra Armour<br /> <br /> <br /> Fast attack<br /> Assault Squad (10) 255<br /> 2xPlasma pistol<br /> Veteran sergeant w/power weapon<br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> Devastators (6) 150<br /> 3x Missile launcher<br /> Tank Hunters<br /> <br /> Devastators (6) 150<br /> 4x Heavy Bolter<br /> <br /> Land Raider Crusaider 263<br /> Smoke <br /> Extra armour<br /> <br /> This list gives you basically the same amount of firepower but for about 700 points less than what you have before.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 May 2008 16:06:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kroeger]]></author>
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				<title>new chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ For the Devastator squad I mixed and matched because it can decimate infantry with the frag missile and heavy bolters + the lascannon generally gives a confirmed kill. Good advice about master. Veterans are gone. Ill replace the snipers missile launcher with extra sniper rifle. Also ill add Powerfists to some vt sergeants. Some of your ideas are good but im not that kean on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 May 2008 19:21:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>new chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Oh yeah Krogeor do you have a good name for a chapter]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 May 2008 19:38:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ model collector]]></author>
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				<title>new chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>For the Devastator squad I mixed and matched because it can decimate infantry with the frag missile and heavy bolters + the lascannon generally gives a confirmed kill.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Wrong way of looking at it. What this configuration means is that you waste the lascannon when firing against hordes and waste the heavy bolters when firing against tanks. You're shooting yourself in the foot.<br /> <br /> On another note, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> on Terminators is too good not to take (and is going away in the new codex, so enjoy it while it lasts).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 May 2008 19:56:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tegeus-Cromis]]></author>
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				<title>new chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ On the name front think along the lines of Storm Eagles if it is going to turn fast. Opal Raiders if it is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> related. Winter Rangers for a more Shooty chapter! <br /> Hope it helps!<br /> SpaceDuck<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:28:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SpaceDuck:P]]></author>
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				<title>new chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey Model collector, are you using the old dex?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:35:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shrike78]]></author>
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