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				<description><![CDATA[ I am thinking of using Karios and he gets 8 spells total 4 from life,heaven,light,metal and 4 from the other lores. Any suggestions for what spells to pick? I know some spells are situational but any "must haves"? Here's what I came up with:<br /> <br /> Life - Howler wind<br /> Heaven - 2nd sign, vranon's tbolt, comet<br /> metal - Spirit of forge(situational)<br /> <br /> Death - steal soul<br /> beasts - bear's anger<br /> shadow - pit of shades(situational)<br /> fire - conflag of doom (combo with 2nd sign cast from other wizards)<br /> wall of fire (situational against mobs)<br /> <br /> Any suggestions? I think people would agree vranon's tbolt and comet are no brainers for their usefulness....]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Even before picking the spells you need to look at:<br /> <br /> What role you will use him in?<br /> Firebase (like I use my slann) with heaps of magic missiles.<br /> Support other troops (movement spells and psych spells)<br /> Combat (Bears anger etc)<br /> Mixture of above<br /> <br /> Potentially how many casting dice will he have?<br /> This determines wheter you will use him a primary caster for your force and go for 2 big spells or 3-4 smallers spells. Casting costs of the spells will be critical. So no point in taking all spells that are hard to cast. My favorites are the 8+ to cast <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(1);'>2d6</span> st4 magic missiles. They massacre light troops, and can knock of a couple of heavy cav, ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 May 2008 03:57:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Waaagh_Gonads]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Waaagh_Gonads wrote:</cite>ven before picking the spells you need to look at:<br /> <br /> What role you will use him in?<br /> Firebase (like I use my slann) with heaps of magic missiles.<br /> Support other troops (movement spells and psych spells)<br /> Combat (Bears anger etc)<br /> Mixture of above<br /> <br /> Potentially how many casting dice will he have?<br /> This determines wheter you will use him a primary caster for your force and go for 2 big spells or 3-4 smallers spells. Casting costs of the spells will be critical. So no point in taking all spells that are hard to cast. My favorites are the 8+ to cast <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(1);'>2d6</span> st4 magic missiles. They massacre light troops, and can knock of a couple of heavy cav, </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> well I will have total of 10 PD from him, base and 2 L2 tzeentch wizards with possibly Heaven. I will cast Boon of tzeentch for d3+1 extra - since he gets +2 to cast i can try to roll 1 die for the boon. I think I will use kairos for mostly damage. here is my 2 lists (heads):<br /> <br /> Head1:<br /> Drain life (on heavy armored ones)<br /> beast cowers(against heavy cav armies)<br /> pit of shades(against ogres or other low I units)<br /> wall of fire(against big mobs)<br /> Conflag of doom (if have 2nd sign setup from other wizards... this could get nasty with re-rolls)<br /> <br /> <br /> head 2:<br /> howler wind (against shooty units)<br /> cleansing flare (against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(44);'>gen</span>. units)<br /> guardian light (combat help)<br /> 2nd sign<br /> Uranon's T bolt(ind. char picker)<br /> comet( mass dest. against mobs)<br /> spirit of forge(against heavy armor armies)<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 May 2008 04:30:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ shaselai]]></author>
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				<title>Help with spell choices for Karios daemon</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry for leaving mid sentence, one of the consultants came in and wanted my consult room. :(<br /> <br /> He gets to pick his spells doesn't he (don't have book with me <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>ATM</span>)<br /> <br /> Also what will the rest of the army look like and at what points?<br /> Heavy combat units love the shadows unit mvt spell.<br /> <br /> Your going for higher casting spells- So you should be able to attempt to cast 3 of them per turn if you get Boon off (I'd have it as priority number 1 to dispel as it gives you too much power in the phase)<br /> But the more dice you roll the greater the chance of a miscast.<br /> <br /> Essentially it all comes down to your style of play.<br /> With my 4th and 2nd <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(44);'>gen</span> slaans (closest I can get to Karios) with extra spells and extra power/dispel dice I love to be very aggressive, and never want the slaan in combat so invariably go for fire for the sheer number of great magic missiles.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 May 2008 06:50:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Waaagh_Gonads]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Help with spell choices for Karios daemon</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Here's my army plan:<br /> Lord:<br /> Kairos 625<br /> <br /> Heroes:<br /> 2 X tzeentch herald with master of sorcery (Haven) = 280<br /> <br /> Core:<br /> <br /> 15 blood letters w/music + standard =198<br /> 15 daem. w/music + standard = 198<br /> 15 daem. OR bloodletters w/music= 185<br /> <br /> 3 screamers (90) or 10 furies(120) or get 10 more bloodletters/daemonettes <br /> <br /> <br /> Rare:<br /> 6 flamers = 210<br /> 6 flamers = 210<br /> <br /> <br /> I didn't want to be all shooty since that would be kinda boring but I just love magic and don't want to be out magicked and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span> 10pd is not that bad. So I suppose I will be using more damaging spells than support..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 May 2008 14:05:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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