<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List CSM list. I want to test it out before i go and buy the models for it.
Please tell me if i can make any improvements to it.

Choas Space Marine Lord.
Terminator Armour, Power Weapon and Combi-Plasma Gun 125pts

2 X 5 Man CSM squads.
Both have Aspiring Champions and Plasma guns.
105pts each 210pts for both

5 Man Havoc Squad with 2X Heavy Bolter, Autocannon and Missile launcher
Aspiring Champion
165pts

Please rate and see if my army can be improved. Thank you for reading.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302037.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302037.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List HQ in Termie armour despite its inherent weakness, take a Sorc. Termie Sorcs can get powers like Lash or BoC or Doombolt off fine enough, but the Lord will struggle to get where he needs to be (that is, into CC). If you want a Lord, you have to make him mobile if he's to be effective. Of course, a winged DP is still the most cost-effective choice if you don't mind using the same thing as everyone else.

What's the point of taking an Asp Champ if you're not going to give him a PF? He serves no other purpose in those squads.

Your Havoc squad is kind of messed up. Mixing HWs is not a great idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302304.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302304.page GMT Re:500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List DP. In the low points bracket of 500 and 800 your not really going to need plasma guns. They are kind of a waste. Most of your points allocation would be better spent on more troops. I play a lot of 500 points with CSM and I'm usually outnumbered. The numbers will help out and in the low points brackets they are good troops. As for the havoc squad, I'd say leave them, but with all heavy bolters. They will be able to use their high rate of fire to 'outnumber' the enemy. The HBs are one of the better options for Havocs. If you want the havocs to be busting tanks at low points, I'd say scrap that idea and go with two Obliterators. They will do the job much better and be able to fight numbers aswell.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302370.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List AC. And add 2 more men to each squad. I also changed the Havocs HW into just HB. However i don't want to have a Daemon Prince as my commander (Call me dumb or call me different) so i now have 155pts for a Commander. As of yet i am not sure what i want however. But thanks for the advice with my combat squads and Havocs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302499.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302499.page GMT Re:500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List DP as your HQ I'd suggest a Chaos Sorcerer. There are a lot of options if you want to fill the entire 155 points with him. I'd suggest Tzeentch but I feel you'd be being robbed by circumstance as the MoT is 10 points more expensive on Chaos Sorcs than it is on DPs. So I'd say go with a Chaos Sorc in Terminator armor with the MoS and LoS. The Fzorgle will give you some good options to manipulate your opponents troops away from you or toward you depending on what you need to get done. The Force weapon on the Sorc will help out in CC when you can't use the Lash. And it also fits him nicely in those 155 points you have open.

There are other configurations you could go with, like 2 more CSM and have a basic Chaos Sorc with MoS and LoS. I think I like this option best personally because of the numbers issue. The CSM will be making their morales pretty fast if you don't have the numbers to support themselves in CC.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302525.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302530.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List
HQ

Choas Sorcerer with Force Weapon, Bolt Pistol, MoS and Fzorgle
125pts

Troops

2x8 CSM squads with standard weapons.
240pts

Heavy Support

5 Man Havoc Squad with 4xHB
135pts]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302531.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List MEq army (ask yourself this: if this army were playing against a clone of itself, would it be deadlier losing two Marines for two plasma guns or not?). They're also insurance in the event that your opponent brings a medium tank or an MC.

I would suggest dropping two CSMs from each squad, adding one plasma gun to each, and adding two Havocs to the Havoc squad.

Slightly OT suggestion: I would try magnetising the backpack on the Sorc. At higher points values, it'll be worth giving him a jump pack, so being able to swap it in on the model will be handy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302725.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302725.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List A)The maximun armour value i can actully damage is 11. A 6 off a heavy bolter which also means that for at least 1 turn i cant actully use the heavy bolters on infantry.
B)I have problems against Armour saves of 3 and 2 so i'm weak against MEq.
So what if i just take 1 man from each squad and replace him with a plasma gun? I wont give the Sorcerer jump pack or wings. As i wouldnt be able to save the 20pts needed without losing more men. Should i remove 2 more men to increase the number of Havocs to 7 and give them more red coats?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302771.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List
So what if i just take 1 man from each squad and replace him with a plasma gun?

Worthwhile, like I said.

I wont give the Sorcerer jump pack or wings. As i wouldnt be able to save the 20pts needed without losing more men.

"At higher points values, it'll be worth giving him a jump pack"

Should i remove 2 more men to increase the number of Havocs to 7 and give them more red coats?

I'd say yes. After all, a CSM is a CSM, right? You're not actually losing any men by shuffling them around like that, and the Havocs need the bullet-catchers more than the CSM squads do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302780.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List
HQ

Chaos Sorcerer Lord with Force weapon, Bolt pistol, MoS and Fzorgle
125pts

Troops

2x6 CSM squads each with plasma guns.
210pts

Heavy Support

7 Havocs with 4 HB
165pts]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302783.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302783.page GMT Re:500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List MEq though. No one plays Marines so I guess I loose sight of that match up sometimes. One guy plays Necrons but I haven't had trouble against him after a few games. But I think if your going to be going up against more MEq than Xenos you should go for the plasmaguns. But I don't think those squads will fair well in CC, so keep that in mind.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302849.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302849.page GMT 500pt Chaos Space Marine Army List Fzorgle is for. Say goodbye CC marines go back a few inches while i shoot you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212476/302851.page GMT