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				<title>CSM Iron Warriors (2000 pts)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Notes: This is my first attempted Army list so don't be too harsh   <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">  <br />            The list goes for looks and fluff over substance, except in the case of the woefully small Obliterator (at least for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(76);'>IW</span>) unit. I should probably beef them up a little, but the list mostly takes into account the models that I own.<br /> <br /> The Marked units are going to be converted to make them more fluffy for a non-aligned army, as someone on Warseer suggested. The Nurgle units are going to be servitors, and the Khornate unit the new inductees.<br /> <br /> <br /> &gt;&gt;HQ&gt;&gt;<br /> <br /> 1 Chaos Lord @ 175 Pts<br /> Lightning Claws (pair); Plasma Pistol; Twin Linked Bolter; Fearless; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Melta Bombs; Bike<br /> <br /> &gt;&gt;ELITE&gt;&gt;<br /> 8 Terminators @ 325 Pts<br /> Chain Fist (x2); Power Fist (x2); Power Weapon (x4); Combi-flamer (x1); Combi-melta (x1); Twin Linked Bolter (x5); Reaper Autocannon (x1)<br /> <br /> 1 Dreadnought @ 110 Pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>+ Heavy Flamer; Plasma Cannon<br /> <br /> &gt;&gt;TROOPS&gt;&gt;<br /> <br /> 9 Chaos Space Marines @ 200 Pts<br /> Autocannon; Chaos Glory<br /> 1 Aspiring Champion @ [30] Pts<br /> Bolt Pistol; Powerfist; Bolter<br /> <br /> 10 Chaos Space Marines @ 195 Pts<br /> Plasmagun; Lascannon; Chaos Glory<br /> <br /> 7 Khorne Berzerkers @ 218 Pts<br /> Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon;  Rhino<br /> 1 Skull Champion @ [36] Pts<br /> Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon<br /> [Rhino]<br /> <br /> 7 Plague Marines @ 161 Pts<br />    <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span>; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>; Bolter; Blight Grenades; Fearless; Feel NoPain; Mark of Nurgle<br /> <br /> &gt;&gt;FAST ATTACK&gt;&gt;<br /> <br /> 1 Hell Blade (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span>) @ 130 Pts<br /> Two Twin Linked Autocannons<br /> <br /> ((If in a game where I cannot use it, then maybe a squad of Raptors?))<br /> <br /> &gt;&gt;HEAVY SUPPORT&gt;&gt;<br /> <br /> 2 Obliterators @ 150 Pts<br /> <br /> 1 Vindicator @ 145 Pts<br />    Daemonic Possession; Dozer Blade; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers<br /> <br /> 6 Havocs @ 180 Pts<br />    Autocannon; Heavy Bolter; Lascannon; Missile Launcher<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ blinky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What unit is the Lord going with? Most people tend to pick Daemon Princes but <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(76);'>IW</span> dont like mutation like that. Seems ok, but mixing weapons in a Havoc squad? It's not too good a idea. but i suppose you have anti tank (autocannon, las cannon missile launcher) that can be used as anti infantry (missile frag, autocannon, heavy bolter) and i recommend a powerfist or at least a power weapon on the Skull Champion.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:27:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Space_hoppo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:CSM Iron Warriors (2000 pts)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I like this list. You have some cool stuff going on. A bunch of different units. Some firepower and some mobility.<br /> <br /> I'd second not mixing the havoc squad weapons quite so much. I'd mix no more than 2 and 2.<br /> <br /> I like the inclusion of the terminators. very fluffy. I might suggest losing one or two and gaining a few more troops or using the extra points for a raptor squad...assuming the game doesn't allow for the hellblade.<br /> <br /> ender502]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:48:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ender502]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Standardize your combi weapons. If you're going take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(59);'>HW</span> in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squad might as well take something big (lascannon).<br /> <br /> Two words: Hidden Fist. Why do your Plague marines and Berserkers not have them? Also special weapons on the Plague marines.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>1 Vindicator @ 145 Pts<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Take 2-3 or none at all. You don't have enough vehicles to make a dent at 2k but you do have just enough for them to flounder and die before doing anything. Bring more or take them out completely.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:21:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ avantgarde]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree as well with avantgarde, with the new rules tanks are not super strong, so you will need more of them than you would have 4th ed.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:08:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Space_hoppo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So should I remove the Havoc squad entirely, and replace it with another Vindicator, and spend the remaining points on a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> squad. <br /> <br /> Alternatively i could put in a predator, but I think that the Vindicator would be better overall.<br /> <br /> What should the Combi weapon for the termies be if I standardise it? I don't think I have enough Anti infantry, so maybe flamers?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:11:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ blinky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Seems to be ok, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span> be wary of you dreadnought, with a gun that powerful you dont want it to flip out on you so keep it as far away as you can from your men is poossible. Combi flamer seems good, as you will never skuff up the one shot with a miss.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:57:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Space_hoppo]]></author>
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