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Sorceror mk of Tzeentch, Warptime, Bolt Of Change, meltabombs
185pts

Elites
6 chosen Missile Launcher, Flamer
133pts

6 chosen Missile Launcher, Flamer
133pts

Dreadnought Missile Launcher, CCW
100pts

Troops
10 Marines Missile Launcher Flamer
in Rhino Havoc launcher, extra armor
230pts

10 Marines Missile Launcher Flamer
in Rhino Havoc launcher, extra armor
230pts

10 Marines Missile Launcher Flamer
in Rhino Havoc launcher, extra armor
230pts

10 Marines Missile Launcher Flamer
165pts

Heavy
3 obliterators
225pts

6 havocs with 4 missile launchers
in rhino Havoc Launcher Extra Armor
235pts

Vindicator
125pts

TOTAL 1991pts

11 missile launchers
3 plasma cannons (from oblits)
1 demolisher cannon (vindi)
4 havoc launchers
18 heavy weapons total

6 flamers
1 bolt of change


Also is extra armor worth it in 5th ed?

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(But wait until the 5th edition SM Codex comes out! You'll see a difference then!)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213037/310945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213037/310945.page GMT
noise marines with doom sirens and blastmasters are infinately better than CSM with flamers and missile launchers.

dreadnoughts are just bad

3 oblits are better than 6 havocs with missile launchers (lascannon are better than krak missiles, plasma cannon are better than frag missile, oblits have the same wounds, better armour, an inv save, are fearless and cost less points)

your chosen can have 4 flamers and a missile launcher (although i wouldnt take the missile launcher because you cant shoot it and move to fire your flamers. have 5 flamers)

make your sorcerer a demon prince, give him wings and change BoC to wind of chaos.
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Id like to see a movement option for the sorcerer - either wings or a chaos bike. This will then allow the hero to act as a deterrant for would be assaulters that want to get into H2H with your gunline. Warp Time + Wind of Chaos cross your mind? Its rather good and is in theme with your playstyle.

Dreadnoughts are pretty rubbish and the chosen seem a little confused. As other have said, Noise Marines are much better at range than CSMs, Id probably liquidate the 4th non mounted CSM unit to achieve that. Alternatively you could drop run four units, two with rhinos, two wthout, so that in Dawn of War, you either have two forward blockers, or, your troops coming on from reserve can be quickly deployed to the front line - which ever you think is more useful.

It does look fun, and should work quite well.

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