http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net WHFB, an Empire list and a Daemon list - my friends and I tend to pool our armies and swap up a lot, so having ready lists is a good thing.

Daemons:

Lords/Heroes:

Keeper of Secrets @ 625
-Level 4
-Siren Song, Allure of Slaanesh, Torment Blade

Masque of Slaanesh @ 80

Herald of Tzeentch @ 160
-Winged Horror, Master of Sorcery

Herald of Khorne @ 240
-Juggernaut, Armor of Khorne
-BSB, Great Icon of Despair

Core:

10 Horrors @ 120

10 Horrors @ 120

10 Horrors @ 120

5 Furies @ 60

5 Furies @ 60

5 Furies @ 60

Special:

5 Flesh Hounds @ 175

5 Flesh Hounds @ 175

Rare:

6 Flamers @ 210

3 Bloodcrushers @ 310
-Full Command

11 PD, 7 DD
68 models

Standard issue furies for marchblocking/harassment, horror speed bumps to throw magic missiles and make dice, four incredibly dangerous hammers, and the Masque to mess with people/suicide charge wizards.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/313407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/313407.page GMT Empire:

Lords/Heroes:

Arch-Lector of Sigmar @ 325
-Sword of Sigismund, Armor of Meteoric Iron, Van Horstman's Speculum
-War Altar

Captain @ 152
-Battle Standard Bearer, Griffon Standard
-Full Plate, Barded Warhose

Battle Wizard @ 115
-Dispel Scroll x2

Battle Wizard @ 150
-Level 2
-Rod of Power, Ring of Volans

Core:

23 Swordsmen @ 217
-Full Command
-Detachment: 9 Swordsmen

25 Swordsmen @ 229
-Full Command
-Detachment: 9 Swordsmen

6 Knights @ 178
-Full Command

6 Knights @ 178
-Full Command

Special:

25 Greatswords @ 334
-Full Command
-Detachment: 9 Swordsmen

Great Cannon @ 100

Great Cannon @ 100

6 Pistoliers @ 122
-Musician, Outrider

Rare:

Steam Tank @ 300

5 PD, 6 DD
115 Models

Battle Pope, the knights, and the Steam Tank provide some lovely hammers to go with those anvil blocks. The BSB goes with the smaller swords unit, mounted in order to provide him with something approaching a survivable save.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/313411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/313411.page GMT BSB should be a Herald of Slaanesh with Daemonic Robes and Allure. You will need something that can keep up with the Keeper and the Masque. M7 just won't cut it.

Also I think you are worring to much about magic. Its not going to effect Daemons as much as most people think.

With that list I feel you are trying to over complicate Daemons much more than is needed an ultimately will cause you trouble in the end.

Loose the Horrors for Daemonettes. and Loose the Blood Crushers for Seekers w/ the Sirens Standard.

For the Empire list. I think you have a fairly solid build. Though I would rather use Free Company Detachments rather than swordsmen. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/313516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/313516.page GMT
If you've got some positive experiences with them, I'd love to hear them, since I love Slaaneshi units but this incarnation of the ladies just feels weak.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/314130.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/314130.page GMT DL at the Baltimore Games Day Tournment and won overall with them . Daemonettes have 2 attacks and WS5 plus armor piercing. This should be more than enough to win against standard units.

The Seekers offer speed and the ability to hit flanks and force your opponent to hold as a charge reaction with the Sirens Standard. They are one of the best units in the book IMHO. Blood Crushers are no where near as effective for their points as Fleshhonds. The only way to make them some what decent is to put a ton of points into the unit and add a Herald.

Each unit in the List has its ups and downs. for the Daemonettes they are fast and can dish out a lot of attacks against lightly armored units or can deal a good bit of wounds to those 5 man cav units with T3.

I would suggest giving them another try. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/314159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/314159.page GMT
Wow, congratulations, man. I'll give your advice a shot.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/314513.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/314513.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/315132.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/213234/315132.page GMT