http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net AP -. When a unit of Berzerkers charges a vehicle do they have -1 to the roll because there weapons have no AP value? Would all CC attacks against vehicles be at a -1? Would grenades, which are a weapon and not fists or claws, get a -1 because they have no ap value?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/214707/332536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/214707/332536.page GMT AP value whatsoever. Therefore, its not even AP -, so that stipulation has not been met. Just because something does not have an AP value doesn't mean you automatically assume its AP -, this is an assumption based on no actual rule, so don't infer.

As a note, it says specifically "by a weapon shown as "AP -". No melee weapon to my knowledge actually has this "shown" in its entry, so again, you cannot assume it does.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/214707/332542.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/214707/332542.page GMT Lissen up, ya lanky gits! DaBoss 'as spoken!
Iffen yer usin yer shoota, the peersin' strengf matters.
Wiff yer slugga, dere ain't no peersin. It's all whackin' damage!


Translation:

DaBoss has it dead on. Ranged weapons have AP. HtH weapons don't.
In order to be affected by "AP-," you'd have to have an AP value... and it would have to be "-."


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