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				<description><![CDATA[ Checked around after a fight against skulltaker.  As far as I can tell, Nightbringer is not immune to instant death in all cases, just the one mentioned (wraithcannons). Is this correct?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:04:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dancingcricket]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Nightbringer subject to instant death</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ his toughness is 8. how exactly could anything instant kill him? Anything else that instantly kills like rolling double 6 on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(164);'>SAG</span>, the crazy chaos stuff or psycic powers turning him into something else i wouldn't imagine his immune to.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:53:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ maybe a furious charging librarian or, as mentioned, skulltaker?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:59:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Somnicide]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Nightbringer subject to instant death</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, skulltaker with his 'causes instant death if he wounds you with a rending hit.']]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 02:06:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dancingcricket]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Skulltaker is incredible versus Wraithlords, too.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 02:37:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sourclams]]></author>
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				<title>Nightbringer subject to instant death</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes I play necrons 1st off before I put my 2 cents in but it's a tough call. By the basic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>RAW</span> you would be correct but I would still say it's jut 1 wound lost because in previous rule variants (Abaddon's demon sword, force weapons etc...) they could not instantly kill (if anyone remembers where this was written let me know, I don't believe it was addressed in a necron <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>faq</span> but in a question about instant death). It's also still a toss up because at the time the rules were written the wraithcannon was the only real threat out there for instant death.  I'd personally play it as a 50/50 if a save is failed, roll a second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> and on a 4+ only 1 wound is lost and anything less the wound is so severe it shatters the necrodermis and nightbringer explodes as if all wounds have been lost. <br /> <br /> On another note though you know there will be rules change when the necrons get updated so whoever is playing necrons may just have to suck it up till the next codex. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:03:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Blue]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ But for like rolling double 6's on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(164);'>SAG</span> you remove the model from play. Seems pretty straight forward, whatever is under that blast is gone.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:28:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ aburnflags]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Nightbringer subject to instant death</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ He isn't immune to insta death. End of story. Shooting him with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> D weapons in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> and making him go bye-bye is just fun. Sucks for necrons that 5th ed. is so full of insta death weapons, but thats the way it is when you have a 3rd ed. codex. I'm sure C'tan will get eternal warrior in their new codex. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:22:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rbb]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't forget about the Bliss Giver, although it'd be tough to wound him with it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:43:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kap N' Krunch]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also, straight from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> for 5th ed Orcs.<br /> <br /> Q. Are models that are immune to instant death<br /> (such as those with eternal warrior) removed<br /> from the table when hit by a Shokk Attack Gun<br /> which rolls a “Raargh” result?<br /> A. Yes, unless they are gargantuan creatures or<br /> super-heavy vehicles (see the Apocalypse book).<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:59:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kap N' Krunch]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've killed the C'Tan with Typhus several times.  Always wound on a 4+, Force Weapon, and *poof*...no more C'Tan!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:18:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Democratus]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Nightbringer subject to instant death</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It's a brave charge to send Typhus in at a C'tan though, since the Deceiver just misdirects and goes off and murders obliterators or something, while the NB will instant death you if he survives your attacks (with his high weapon skill and decent invulnerable save).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:36:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40kenthusiast]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I laughed last <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> game when we had a Deceiver and Jan'Zahr in a fight (He charged me to keep me from wiping a flank) The next turn a 10 inch pie plate of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> D scattered killing him and all the remaining Banshees. Jan just took the wound and laughed.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:20:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AsheruWolf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ erm... why <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> work on him??? from dex:Necrons wording its looks like a - <br /> If a wraithcannon inflicts instant death on a C'Tan..... <br />  it look like C'Tan don't die because of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span>... not because wraithcannon rolled 6...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:20:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ penek]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ fluff wise the Wraithcannon opens a portal to the warp which the C'Tan have a particular weakness to (as evidenced by there war against the old ones) and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> ruleswise; they didnt cause Instant Death but instead removed the model from play<br /> <br /> Force Weapons appeared in 3rd ed and they could instantly kill C'Tan but they dont have an exception when dealing with them meaning that C'Tan were not immune to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span>.<br /> <br /> Salamanders also existed at the time and they had Adanantium Mantle which prevented <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> but that wording wasnt used with a C'Tan implying that they were not supposed to be immune to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span><br /> <br /> As it stands its a poorly written <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> answer and thats nothing new. Just look at the entry; if it states its immune to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> (with no criteria) then it is; but thats not the case in this instance.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:48:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Aeon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ C'tan are subject to instant death rules with an exception to wraith cannons.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:02:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ imweasel]]></author>
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