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L: Crone Hellebron - manticore = 550
H: Hag - BSB, cauldron of blood = 225
H: Sorceress - 2 dispel scrolls = 150

C: 5 Dark Riders - xbows, musician = 117
C: 5 Dark Riders - xbows, musician = 117
C: 7 Witch Elves = 70
C: 7 Witch Elves = 70
C: 7 Witch Elves = 70
C: 7 Witch Elves = 70
C: 5 Harpies = 55
C: 5 Harpies = 55

S: 18 Executioners - full command, special character guy who gives them fear, some banner = 351?

R: War Hydra = 175
R: War Hydra = 175

Total: 2250 points

Clearly I'm unsure of the points and banner for the executioner brick, but I'm hoping I can pack that into the 351 points remaining. Any left over points would likely go to pumping up the cauldron hag with some tasty gift thingies. Part of me worries about the cauldron being taken out, as it's a bit of a linchpin making all those khainites work, but it may have tricksy rules I didn't absorb during my read last night.

I like what I think the list can do, but all that T3 does bug me some. Plastic witch elves and new dark riders would make me a LOT more interested in the list, let me note

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/348261.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/348261.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/348492.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/348492.page GMT CR anyway. You do have a point and the points might be right to get a 5th unit of 6 if they were all dropped down a chick ...

Then again most of my experience is with ogres, where most of my units are 120mm frontage (6 witches) or even 160mm (8 witches). Sure the fatties have +1M over the chicks but I'm not sure it would be TOO ungainly. It's more a question if I want another MSU unit of witches to toss forward (probably).

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they might last longer that way, otherwise they will just get shot to pieces.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/348888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/348888.page GMT raw kill potential in my mind. Going spammed MSU with little stubborn squads might almost be feasible backed up by the cauldron, and with the threat of Hellebron tearing your head off if you don't shoot her I'm not certain how much fire the little girl units are going to receive. Frenzy means they can't break and even 1 girl with 3 poison attaks is an assassination waiting to happen. Oh, also 2 hydras once you shoot the other stuff

Anyway, spent a little more time with the book so I have a more legit list:

L: Crone Hellebron - manticore = 550
H: Hag - BSB, cauldron of blood, banner of ASF = 260
H: Sorceress - 2 dispel scrolls = 150

C: 5 Dark Riders - xbows, musician = 117
C: 5 Dark Riders - xbows, musician = 117
C: 6 Witch Elves - hag = 70
C: 6 Witch Elves = 60
C: 6 Witch Elves = 60
C: 6 Witch Elves = 60
C: 5 Harpies = 55
C: 5 Harpies = 55

S: 18 Executioners - Tullaris, standard, musician, banner of cold blooded = 344

R: War Hydra = 175
R: War Hydra = 175

Total: 2248 points

Tullaris is amazingly expensive, for basically a champ with 3 attaks, cause fear and reroll wounds (which the cauldron makes them do anyway). But causing fear is an excellent thing so for now I'd give him a try.

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lead by deathmaster Sniktch (6 Str 9 WS 9, I10 attacks)
night runners and gutter runners would make a mess of the units.

would be amusing to face that with a kornate daemon army though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/349532.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/349532.page GMT hr second build is much more solid and i like it a lot. the only problem i have is you aren't using one or two crossbow units which IMO is a mistake, but the list is still good enough to be both fun to play and somewhat effective. go on to play testing]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/349552.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/215905/349552.page GMT
L: Crone Hellebron - manticore = 550
H: Hag - BSB, cauldron of blood, banner of ASF, manbane = 285
H: Sorceress - 2 dispel scrolls = 150

C: 5 Dark Riders - musician = 92
C: 5 Dark Riders - musician = 92
C: 6 Witch Elves - hag = 70
C: 6 Witch Elves = 60
C: 6 Witch Elves = 60
C: 6 Witch Elves = 60
C: 5 Harpies = 55
C: 5 Harpies = 55

S: 18 Executioners - Tullaris, standard, musician, banner of cold blooded = 344

R: 2 Repeater Bolt Throwers = 200
R: War Hydra = 175

Total: 2248 points

I decided having 2 bolters would be more useful than that second hydra, and a part of me still feels like double new hydras is a tad cheesy :S. So I needed to cut 25 points. Checking out Voodoo's monster mash list and thinking about what I actually want the driders to do (bait / switch / hunt backfield) for their points, and then coming up against the few plastic elf cavalry available, I decided to drop the xbows entirely. The remaining 25 points went to manbane on the cauldron hag, which should be pretty decent with her ASF.

Now I really want to build this army but I so don't have $300 spare in my future

As an aside, when you get magnetic bases (like from GF9) are the bases themselves magnetic? So I could just make 20x120mm strips of some metal to hold those witch units together?

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