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Lysander is S10 w/ +1 to terrain. Maybe other bonuses too?

Lysander
Reclusiarch w/ Terminator Armour and Storm Bolter
1x 10x Terminator Command w/ 2x AC

1x 10x Sternguard
Maybe a couple Power Fists

2x 10x Tactical Squads
1x HB, 1x Flamer
Veteran w/ Power Fist and Combi-Flamer (Might lose the Fists if they are 25 points)

1x 10x Devastator Squad
4x Lascannons

1x 10x Devastator Squad
4x Missile Launchers

I might replace the Sternguard with ... ???

Razorbacks?

Also I could take only 6 Terminators, or split the squad and lose the Chaplain. Or add a Librarian.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361530.page GMT
62 models. Yay.

I was thinking two boxes of Devastators and split the weapons, so the other Spase Marinez!!!! army will get the Plasma Cannons. Multimeltas I'll probably convert something and/or bitz box.

I just don't know. But I wouldn't mind a smallish army that was easy to use for a beginner.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361579.page GMT
What do you except to hit with that?

Maybe split it a little,
And maybe even take a crusader to actually take them into combat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361620.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361620.page GMT
I am actually looking at maybe Ultras. I just don't know.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361631.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/361631.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362576.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362576.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362578.page GMT CC.
and i woulkd throw in a rhino or 2 instead of razorbacks, cheaper, and since the army is fairly slow use the rhinos to block, just keep them in front and use them as a portable shield ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362584.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362584.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362586.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362586.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362623.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362623.page GMT
Maybe from 1500 to 2000 I will add a Vindicator and two Land Raiders, assuming the Sternguard can take them as transports.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216911/362707.page GMT