http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net AP value, hence it would appear they cop a negative penalty on the damage charts against armour, yet belt out St9 hits to begin with. Personally, I think this is something that should be addressed in errata somewhere in the future on GW's website as it feels completely odd to have such a high Strength weapon tearing a tank to bits, only to shake it or less on average. Does anyone have any further info that might lead to correction on my thoughts / interpretation? If you were playing using singing spears or against them would you have a house rule against the negative penalty for no AP? Please discuss... this may have an impact on manhood jokes at local games "sure its big enough, but is it useful?" etc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362010.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362010.page GMT AP value so you don't get a -1 on the damage table
... secondly at range a sing spear is AP 6 (strenth 9 against vechicals) so still no -1 on the damage table roll


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should make it clear you only get a -1 if your AP: -
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362073.page GMT AP 6 as well, therefore, no modifier. I use them frequently, and if I haven't been applying a modifier when I should I have a lot of appologizing to do, however, I recall them being AP 6]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362265.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362265.page GMT thanks for the heads up. Case closed!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362435.page GMT STR:6 AP:4 Assault 1, Lance]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362812.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/216949/362817.page GMT