JD21290 wrote:i like it, but lacks speed, and does not have enough fire power to compete in a firefight, some games you will be forced to run head long into oncomming fire.
might be worth dropping something to get them a transport or 2.

Burning Star IV wrote:The Assault Termies will get into combat, sure, but with 7 and a Marshal, you're dumping more points into something that you could do with somewhere around 4-5 terminators. What you need is anti-tank, and neophytes. From the second list, drop the second LRC, drop 1 shooty marine, and buy them a Lazerback. Drop 2 Termies, and buy neophytes for your CC squads. That way, they'll actually get to combat in more than one piece.

Burning Star IV wrote:The Assault Termies will get into combat, sure, but with 7 and a Marshal, you're dumping more points into something that you could do with somewhere around 4-5 terminators. What you need is anti-tank, and neophytes. From the second list, drop the second LRC, drop 1 shooty marine, and buy them a Lazerback. Drop 2 Termies, and buy neophytes for your CC squads. That way, they'll actually get to combat in more than one piece.

Brother Condon wrote:I also play a two Land Raider Crusader list. A few things I noticed, The melta gun in the shooty squad is miss matched to the las cannon, consider switching to a plasma gun, atracktivly priced in BT codex at only 6 points. Second, I would consider changing that assault termy squad , to a beefy crusader squad, heres why. The LRC is going to provide them with protection from shooting, then in cc with accept any challenge, your marines are very good in close combat, (3 attackes a peice on the charge with re-rolls). I would also consider switching at least one of your flamers to a melta gun, that will give your advancing infantry better anti-tank. good luck, Black Templars rule!