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HQ
Forgefather Vulkan He'Stan Points 190
Wargear:
- Artificer Armour
- Frag and krak grenades
- Bolt Pistol
- Kesare's Mantle
- The Spear of Vulkan
- Digital Weapons
- The Gauntlet of the Forge

Troops
Space Marine Tactical Squad Points 205
10 Marines
Wargear:
- Flamer
- Multi-Melta
- Drop Pod

Space Marine Tactical Squad Points 205
10 Marines
Wargear:
- Flamer
- Multi-Melta
- Drop Pod

Space Marine Tactical Squad Points 205
10 Marines
Wargear:
- Flamer
- Multi-Melta
- Drop Pod

Elites Points 320
Terminator Assualt Squad
8 Terminators
Wargear:
Terminator Armour
Thunder Hammer and Storm Shields

Ironclad Dreadnought Points 185
Wargear:
- Seismic Hammer
- Melta-gun, Heavy Flamer
- Dreadnought close combat weapon
- Smoke Launchers
- Searchlight
- Extra Armour
- Drop Pod


Ironclad Dreadnought Points 185
Wargear:
- Seismic Hammer
- Melta-gun, Heavy Flamer
- Dreadnought close combat weapon
- Smoke Launchers
- Searchlight
- Extra Armour
- Drop Pod

Fast Attack Points 95
Scout Bike Squad
3 bikes
Wargear:
- Scout Armour
- Bolt Pistol
- Frag and Krak Grenades
- Space Marine Bike
- Shot Gun
- Locater Beacon
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i would drop the scout bikes and one termie for tact serg weapons (combi melta or flamer)a heavy flamer on each dreads, locator beacons on the drop pods and maybe a few extra toys (extra termie, deathwind launchers or whatever)
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mothman_451 wrote:i would drop the scout bikes and one termie for tact serg weapons (combi melta or flamer)a heavy flamer on each dreads, locator beacons on the drop pods and maybe a few extra toys (extra termie, deathwind launchers or whatever)


So you want him to drop one termie to take extra toys, like an extra termie?

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tokugawa wrote:You cannot fire your multimeltas at the turn you just landed.Is it correct?


Yeah, but it's free and keeps the list fluffy, so who cares.

I agree with mothman_451, the scout bikers are unnecessary for only one deep strike squad.

You are better of with regular Scouts who can score. They can flank or infiltrate. They can drop the beacon. And they can be either set up as a forward assault squad or a fire support squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/375939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/375939.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376172.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376172.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. btw, only a homer.

Get thebeacon cheaper and easier on a drop pod or two instead, or give a tac sgt a homer (beacon on pod is cheaper). Half your pods come in turn 1, so you know you'll have at least on homer on turn 2 for the terminators to use. Since pods guide themsleves, it isn't so bad if the first half scatter a bit.

In general with few exceptions a drop pod army is better when all of it drops. One unit of fragile scouts is a point of failure that you don't need and could be better spent elsewhere.

There's a few options. Off the bat, i think you should take more advantage of the chapter tactics. So say you drop the scouts and a terminator -- use the points to get 2 beacons, add 2x hvy flamers on the dreads and add two MM speeders. Leaves some points I think for swapping flamers for meltas in the tac squads and/or taking some combi weapons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376178.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army.
Mahu wrote:
tokugawa wrote:You cannot fire your multimeltas at the turn you just landed.Is it correct?


Yeah, but it's free and keeps the list fluffy, so who cares.


Ive never heard of this rule.

So am I right in understanding this as meltas cannot be fired on the turn they are deepstruck or am i taking this out of context?

Thanks!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376285.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376285.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army.
Something to add from above. The mismatch on the flamer and MM is not such a big deal, since you can combat squad after dropping (yet another snub to DA/BA). Only makes a small difference in annihilation where you'd rather not split. That does make a difference worth considering but is not so bad as long as anti-tank is well covered elsewhere.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376303.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376303.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army.
And while in some cases it's easier for your opponent to blow up the pods to get rid of the beacons -- if you think about it, a piece of wargear that makes your opponent want to shoot drop pods in the first or second turn instead of their cargo is worth way more than ten points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376316.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376316.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army.
Edit: Nvm, took the Ironclad launchers instead. I'd suggest putting dual heavy flamers instead of the launchers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376318.page GMT Re:Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376880.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376880.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376881.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376881.page GMT Re:Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/376888.page GMT Re:Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377384.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. SM codex allows half your pods to drop on Turn 1, the rest come in from reserves normally - just like daemon deployment. Guess GW realized that letting people have their whole army off the board for 1-2 opponent turns wasn't always the most fun. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377396.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377396.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army.
First Scout Bikers can take the locater beacon and for them to be able to turbo charge and get the cover save and infiltrate that makes them still awesome to help bring down the pods accurately.

Drop pods don't have deep strike mishaps, except for table edge, so they are ok without any beacons tbh. I do like the beacons on the pods though, as then I have a good shot at having a beacon for the more important later arrivals.

The point is you have 150 points in a unit that is gonna be all by its lonesome early game and adds very little to the list overall. Those points could get you some very usefull units or gear that takes advantage of Vulkans Chapter tactic.

The list isnt for winning it is for fluf.

What is paricularly fluffy about scout bikers? Salamanders are pretty well known for using very few bikes, jump packs and speeders. They have em and there's nothing wrong with using them, but fluffy it is not.

Who cares I have Vulcan the most broken Character in the marine book he will eat whole armies.

He is tough for sure, but having played this style of army long before there was Vulkan He'Stan, I doubt his armies will table opponents without being seriously tweaked.

So why do people think I should take out the assault launchers they are ridiculous, they are blight and frag grenades.

I didn't personally suggest removing them but I can see reasons to consider it. It costs almost as much as the old venerable upgrade and has far less overall utility. When charging into cover you aren't striking after the typical fist leader, but the typical fist has 2-3 attacks, so about 5-8% chance of destroying the iron clad before you strike. There's more to it overall but does illustrate the limits of how good it is. Useful and worth considering but not a no-brainer.

And if I take out the scout bikers what else should I put in instead.

See my comments a few posts up. You have some other options also -- like taking 10 terminators instead of 6 and splitting them (I think that can be done before DS but I haven't checked to be sure).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377460.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/377598.page GMT Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/378228.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/378228.page GMT Re:Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/378349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/378349.page GMT Re:Rate this Salamanders Drop Pod Army. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/378534.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/217915/378534.page GMT